The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[DracoM]

[antongould]

I wasn't up in time to hear but the schedule says Hannah French was on Breakfast duty? GM is currently doing EC and I agree she is being rather too much the chatterbox. Due to be Tom McKinney next week, which should be an improvement.
And before other, non-morning listeners, wade in - although talk is a part of said broadcasts there are limits.

Frenchie will be waiting in the wings to tell us we really shouldn’t be discussing presenters and anyway it’s a matter of personal taste - which of course it is …… but I did stumble across EC a while ago and I do think the me, me, me thing is getting worse ….. time to bring back Skellers some might say ……

[Old Grumpy]

Frenchie will be waiting in the wings to tell us we really shouldn’t be discussing presenters and anyway it’s a matter of personal taste - which of course it is …… but I did stumble across EC a while ago and I do think the me, me, me thing is getting worse ….. time to bring back Skellers some might say ……

[Ein Heldenleben]

Frenchie will be waiting in the wings to tell us we really shouldn’t be discussing presenters and anyway it’s a matter of personal taste - which of course it is …… but I did stumble across EC a while ago and I do think the me, me, me thing is getting worse ….. time to bring back Skellers some might say ……

IS has the rare gift of being able to write / read an entire script without using the words “brilliant “ and “fantastic”. Back in the day all the radio channels had bods called Presentation Editors who would send out memos banning overused and indeed clichéd words like that. A bit like Fleet Street style guides.

[smittims]

It's difficult to avoid the feeling that they've been told to use an approved list of adjectives. I weary of 'incredible' when they mean 'remarkable', and how everyone has to be 'award-winning' .

[Nick Armstrong]

IS has the rare gift of being able to write / read an entire script without using the words “brilliant “ and “fantastic”. Back in the day all the radio channels had bods called Presentation Editors who would send out memos banning overused and indeed clichéd words like that. A bit like Fleet Street style guides.

Yes the clichés and their meaningless enthusiasm are a major reason for avoiding the majority of R3 presenters these days. The hollow repetition manages to be both boring and irritating

[Sir Velo]

I think it's as an adverb that that word's use is most distressing. This from the Guardian's letter pages: "In broadcast talks or interviews it appears in almost every sentence and often in oxymoronic expressions such as ‘incredibly reliable’ or even ‘incredibly truthful’"

[Ein Heldenleben]

I think it's as an adverb that that word's use is most distressing. This from the Guardian's letter pages: "In broadcast talks or interviews it appears in almost every sentence and often in oxymoronic expressions such as ‘incredibly reliable’ or even ‘incredibly truthful’"

The only artistically justified use I can think of it is at the end of the trial of Bialystock and Bloom in Mel Brook’s The Producers. The foreman’s verdict : “ We find the defendants incredibly guilty.”

[french frank]

Frenchie will be waiting in the wings to tell us we really shouldn’t be discussing presenters and anyway it’s a matter of personal taste

To clarify regarding presenters - I was saying that it was irrelevant whether individual listeners liked or disliked particular presenters based on the presenter's personal attributes (can't stand the girly flirty style, like his warm enthusiastic manner &c). My Favourite is someone else's Can't Stand. Much is to do with what station managers want of presenters (chirpy, information lite, keep them listening). Style v Content.

[JasonPalmer]

I think presenting is probably a difficult job, they all have different styles, it all good.

[Ein Heldenleben]

To clarify regarding presenters - I was saying that it was irrelevant whether individual listeners liked or disliked particular presenters based on the presenter's personal attributes (can't stand the girly flirty style, like his warm enthusiastic manner &c). My Favourite is someone else's Can't Stand. Much is to do with what station managers want of presenters (chirpy, information lite, keep them listening). Style v Content.

At the risk of sounding pretentious I think you can draw up a list of quasi -Arnoldian critieria based on how they use language. For those with long memories Peter Clayton was a master of the radio script . Witty , cliché -avoiding , pertinent , informative etc - he was really exceptional . Penny Gore is on now - another good writer. Others include , but are not limited to Ian McMillan , David Stafford , Brian Redhead , Derek Jewell, Anthony Hopkins, Verity Sharp …thankfully it’s a long list.

[hmvman]

... it all good.

I feel that is very much debatable!

[Serial_Apologist]

For those with long memories Peter Clayton was a master of the radio script . Witty , cliché -avoiding , pertinent , informative etc - he was really exceptional.

Peter Clayton was one jazz host or presented among several who to my mind set the high standard that Alyn Shipton maintains when it comes to jazz programmes, which, as others (not necessarily jazz buffs either) have pointed out, represents one of the vew remaining vestiges of Radio 3 broadcasting standards from an earlier era... whether or not Alyn actually follows a "script". My impression is that he meticulously notes down factual details and memories of his own when required in announcing those requesting tracks, but that's about it.

[Nick Armstrong]

I feel that is very much debatable!

As well as being one of those meaningless clichés that make me (cf: “it is what it is” )

[smittims]

Yes, that irks me too, as does 'back in the day...' . I fear a new one is approaching. 'You can't un-ring a bell'. Urgh!