The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

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  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5801

    Originally posted by antongould View Post
    Oh Dear if Sounds is to be believed double Ms Alker this weekend ☹️
    Like Double Maths on Friday afternoon?

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8830

      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
      Like Double Maths on Friday afternoon?
      Nobody should suffer like you kb

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      • kernelbogey
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5801

        I suffer so they don't have to....

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26569

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          Alker's hell sir.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26569

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Oh Dear if Sounds is to be believed double Ms Alker this weekend ☹️
            There was always going to be payback following a double-Hander the other week
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • kernelbogey
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5801

              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              Nobody should suffer like you kb
              I did give her programme a try a week or two ago: the music was fine.

              But I lasted only 30 minutes.

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8830

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Alker's hell sir.
                Excellent S_A ……. She’s a bit of a pick me up only IMVVHO obviously ……

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8830

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post

                  Excellent S_A ……. She’s a bit of a pick me up only IMVVHO obviously ……
                  but tragically missing on the weekend just gone 😂

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37812

                    Originally posted by antongould View Post

                    but tragically missing on the weekend just gone 😂
                    I see Ms Seltzer is to compere next Friday's jazz-themed Prom - which could be interesting. 🙂

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                    • antongould
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8830

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                      I see Ms Seltzer is to compere next Friday's jazz-themed Prom - which could be interesting. 🙂
                      indeed it could S_A

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                      • smittims
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 4325

                        It's easy to call someone a snob. But are we agreed about what it actually means? I've always been puzzled by its use in the context of classical music.

                        Maybe the meaning of the word is changing (like that of 'savant', 'geek' and 'nerd') I used to think a snob was someone who pretended to belong to a higher realm, for example , someone who refers to members of the Royal Family by their first names and hints that they see them frequently, or someone who doesn't really know anything about opera but looks down on you if you haven't seen 'the new Cosi at the Garden' or been to Glyndebourne.

                        I'm perhaps halfway between James and Maestro. I see the need for an informal friendly morning programme encouraging listening to classical music. But I don't like to see it descend to a giggling Katie Derham-style chat show with ignorant remarks ('now we're gunna play you a Mozart Horn concerto. It's the one in E flat...').

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                        • TarandeepKang
                          TarandeepKang commented
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                          I am, as I said before, relatively new to the world of classical, and very new to this forum. As a young PhD student, I am absolutely both a nerd and geek, and take pride in both of those things! I would say, that wrongly, I did believe that classical music aficionados were snobs. To me, I would take it to mean that they either pretended to be Porsche, all were so protective of the preserve of their music, that they thought it did belong to anybody who wasn't of "high status." Of course I no longer think that. Classical music is just interesting, and I think anybody has the right to be interested in it!

                          It was at least in part, the warm and welcoming comments on the music, without condescension, on the breakfast programme, the convinced me I might be welcome. I first heard the programme after deciding to switch away from Today for once. I still do occasionally do that, and Petroc brightens my mornings, when I've had enough of Robinson and Webb!
                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        . . . I don't like to see it descend to a giggling Katie Derham-style chat show with ignorant remarks ('now we're gunna play you a Mozart Horn concerto. It's the one in E flat...').
                        🤣 When was that? I avoid the programme like the plague.

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                        • smittims
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                          • Aug 2022
                          • 4325

                          Sorry, I can't recall the date, but I distinctly recall her unforgettable voice saying it. It was some years ago. I also remember 'Vaughan Williams' third pastoral symphony' and Petroc Trelawney playing 'an etood' by Rachimaninov. It was in fact one of his Preludes, thought Petroc again caled it an 'etood' afterwards.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9271

                            Originally posted by smittims View Post
                            Sorry, I can't recall the date, but I distinctly recall her unforgettable voice saying it. It was some years ago. I also remember 'Vaughan Williams' third pastoral symphony' and Petroc Trelawney playing 'an etood' by Rachimaninov. It was in fact one of his Preludes, thought Petroc again caled it an 'etood' afterwards.
                            Fortunately things(and KD) have moved on. Mistakes are still occasionally made(but corrected with much better grace than used to be the case with certain presenters) and the adverts(type and frequency) are still a big negative for me - and I think the presenters are sometimes none too happy with the grating juxtaposition of one of the noisy irrelevant ones following hot on the heels of a more reflective piece of music.

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                            • smittims
                              Full Member
                              • Aug 2022
                              • 4325

                              Well, at least this discussion has prompted me to listen again when I have the time and the inclination...

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