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The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by smittims View PostThat quoted response is typical of what I've seen over the years from Government spokesmen, etc. an attempt to settle a matter with a witty soundbite.
Originally posted by smittims View PostSo I think it's OK to play a Bach cantata on the Radio 'out of season'. But as with the notorious Government spokesman who appeared not to know what 'mysogyny' was, I think Kate is mistaking Bach's use of his music in other contexts to suggest that he would have welcomed this.
And maybe the 'Government spokesman' knew what misogyny is....
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Hi, kernelbogey; I dont want to start an argument over what I think was a silly little remark, but perhaps it's worth clarifying what I meant.
I knew her remark wasn't broadcast ,but it was still, I think, an attempt to settle the matter with a witty soundbite.
Yes, she's entitled to her opinion; I never suggested she isn't. But she attributes to Bach an opinion about his music which she states as if it were a fact (i.e we don't actually know that Bach actually believed that) . So I stand by my last sentence you quote.
As for the remark about misogyny, for anyone who missed it it might be worth recalling: he said 'Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it's a man against a woman or a woman against a man'. How the feminists came down on him like the wolf upon the fold. So no, I don't think he did know what misogyny is. I think he was confusing it with 'sexism' , just as I thought Kate was confusing Bach's use of some of his cantata music in other works with a stated belief that it's OK to play his cantatas out of season.
I hope I'm mistaken in sensing a note of irritability oin you post. Do let's try to keep it friendly.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostSurely you would agree that Kate, a professional musicologist, is entitled to her personal opinion on J S Bach?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Though weird, today's programme mirroring the music of the countries whose Eurovision Song Contest entrants are finalists tomorrow night in Liverpool has an energy and freshness about it that I have found appealing.
Congratulations to producer Susan Kenyon who, according to Petroc, pulled an all-nighter choosing the music once the Saturday finalists were known.
I vote for Hieronymos Tragodistēs!
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostThough weird, today's programme mirroring the music of the countries whose Eurovision Song Contest entrants are finalists tomorrow night in Liverpool has an energy and freshness about it that I have found appealing.
Congratulations to producer Susan Kenyon who, according to Petroc, pulled an all-nighter choosing the music once the Saturday finalists were known.
I vote for Hieronymos Tragodistēs!
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