The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[kernelbogey]

Foolishly switched on (and left playing) as I woke earlyish:

Dawn and Sunday morning from Peter Grimes
An extract from Appalachian Spring

Nothing too challenging there, then.

And yet, and yet...
Jo Knuemann (who he?), Florence Prce (I know, I know), Ella :cool1:; Dora Pejacevic; and 'Bach before Seven' was two flute sonatas which I had never heard before. Plus Hannah in Berlin .

'Poissonally in poisson', it was a nice start to my day.

[Pulcinella]

And yet, and yet...
Jo Knuemann (who he?), Florence Prce (I know, I know), Ella :cool1:; Dora Pejacevic; and 'Bach before Seven' was two flute sonatas which I had never heard before. Plus Hannah in Berlin .

'Poissonally in poisson', it was a nice start to my day.

It certainly could have been worse, but the eternal/ever-present Britten and Copland still jar (and imho such overexposure demeans the music too).

[kernelbogey]

It certainly could have been worse, but the eternal/ever-present Britten and Copland still jar (and imho such overexposure demeans the music too).

I may have been 'softened up' by a couple of hours of TTN immediately before: I have had a longstanding antipathy for Britten - no obvious explanation - but heard a wonderful Serenade for Tenor, Horn and Strings at 0525. It wasn't Pears, but it could have been....

[oddoneout]

I may have been 'softened up' by a couple of hours of TTN immediately before: I have had a longstanding antipathy for Britten - no obvious explanation - but heard a wonderful Serenade for Tenor, Horn and Strings at 0525. It wasn't Pears, but it could have been....

Benjamin Butterfield who seems to be very well though of across the pond https://www.schmopera.com/scene/peop...n-butterfield/ - and perhaps here by those into opera?
I don't find the repetition of certain pieces nearly as evident as once was the case in the morning schedules. I've had more problems in that direction recently with evening concerts which feel like ones I've heard before even when they are live broadcasts, because of the same works or composers appearing in a short space of time.

[kernelbogey]

I tried Saturday Breakfast today, just so I could say I had; but lasted only an hour. The presenter has not lost her nursery-teacher intonation, and for me that spoils the programme. I know that not everybody appreciates the sounds of nature and bells on Sunday Breakfast, but leaf-raking to Pretorius today was, er, not very interesting.

I know Frenchie has said that's because it's not aimed at me, but I want to hear the music with informed commentary on it. I don't wish to know that a listener somewhere is having black coffee and hot eggs - eh?

By contrast, Hannah during the week for me just gets better and better. The postcards from Berlin were pitched just right. And, somehow, saying the newsreader had just come into the studio 'with the news headlines and a stonking cup of tea' was ok because she also had deconstructed the Jean Mouton piece.

[Cockney Sparrow]

I tried Saturday Breakfast today, just so I could say I had; but lasted only an hour...... I know that not everybody appreciates the sounds of nature and bells on Sunday Breakfast, but leaf-raking to Pretorius today was, er, not very interesting.

I know Frenchie has said that's because it's not aimed at me, but I want to hear the music with informed commentary on it. I don't wish to know that a listener somewhere is having black coffee and hot eggs - eh?

By contrast, Hannah during the week for me just gets better and better. The postcards from Berlin were pitched just right. And, somehow, saying the newsreader had just come into the studio 'with the news headlines and a stonking cup of tea' was ok because she also had deconstructed the Jean Mouton piece.

I'm thoroughly fed up with slow...sounds which appear here and there on Radios 4 and 3. I've long ruled out the presenter of Saturday Breakfast .

On Sundays past I would inveterately turn over to R3 at 8.10 at the end of the news and papers on Radio 4 - to avoid the sunday service, and of course that is pretty much the time Martin Handley is playing bells, whistles and any other sort of "soundscape" you might think of. Now, I don't bother with the radio at all at 8.10, or I play his programme from an earlier point on BBC Sounds and then skip the cross BBC adverts and sounds part of the programme. Other times of day I turn the radio off, and then realise I haven't put it back on again presumably not what their aiming for, but we have enough experience of the BBC to know they don't care about the preferences of our demographic, nor what we cannot tolerate.

[muzzer]

I stopped listening to Saturday breakfast ages ago. I’d had enough of ‘checking my [non existent actually] privilege’ to listen to EA’s version of presenting which by turns I found patronising and infantilising. On Sunday I can just about manage MH but his endless correction of himself suggests pointless self-reproachment. The best option would be Danielle J, but she’s still building experience on TTN, where selfishly I like to think of her as a well-kept secret.

[kernelbogey]

....she’s still building experience on TTN, where selfishly I like to think of her as a well-kept secret.

[antongould]

I stopped listening to Saturday breakfast ages ago. I’d had enough of ‘checking my [non existent actually] privilege’ to listen to EA’s version of presenting which by turns I found patronising and infantilising. On Sunday I can just about manage MH but his endless correction of himself suggests pointless self-reproachment. The best option would be Danielle J, but she’s still building experience on TTN, where selfishly I like to think of her as a well-kept secret.

I like Kate Molleson as a Breakfast presenter …. but then that’s me ….

[kernelbogey]

Re the blessed DJ: she has begun saying her name on TTN pronouncing her last name with the third letter sounded as English 'w'. i take it that its third letter is in fact Polish wi - the English 'l' with a line through it (which I can't reproduce here). Whereas the BBC always prints it as an 'l'. I believe I can detect that difference between how she pronounces her own last name on TTN compared with news & continuity on R3, R4 or World Service.

[Serial_Apologist]

A presenter with a bit of polish makes all the difference.

[kernelbogey]

A presenter with a bit of polish makes all the difference.

[Nick Armstrong]

On Sunday I can just about manage MH but his endless correction of himself suggests pointless self-reproachment.

… I haven’t noticed such self-correction even start (apart from when there’s been a slight cock-up, technical or otherwise), let alone be endless.

I generally enjoy the programmes served up by MH and his producers, usually in half-hour chunks of an afternoon. Some interesting choices which have made for welcome discoveries for me - the Toccata on Veni Emmanuel by Andrew Carter last week, for example, and the Kurt Atterberg 4th Symphony this week. (And no pop songs that I’ve noticed!)

[muzzer]

And long may our contrasting experiences continue ;)

[Nick Armstrong]

And long may our contrasting experiences continue ;)

We are in complete accord about EA however