The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Ein Heldenleben]

The debate is whether Breakfast is a Good programme or a Bad programme, and is potentially eternal, in the sense that it may never be resolved (or indeed revolved, much like the discussion!)

It’s essentially irresolvable. However, to borrow a cancel-culture phrase, the excellence of Petroc is not “up for debate “ surely ?

[cloughie]

This filibuster is working towards the 10000 nicely!

[Ein Heldenleben]

This filibuster is working towards the 10000 nicely!

I would like to debate whether a post deliberately aimed at reaching 1000 posts can genuinely be considered as part of the Eternal Breakfast debate when a genuine (though irrelevant) series of posts on categorisation have been hived off and as a consequence generated an 80 odd post shortfall …

[gradus]

The debate is whether Breakfast is a Good programme or a Bad programme, and is potentially eternal, in the sense that it may never be resolved (or indeed revolved, much like the discussion!)

I am very much in favour of Breakfast, programme or no - I think it needed to be said.

[antongould]

It’s essentially irresolvable. However, to borrow a cancel-culture phrase, the excellence of Petroc is not “up for debate “ surely ?

Petroc has been criticised on this thread for his manner of breathing IIRC …. but to me at least he is a national treasure …… always MVVHO of course …

[oddoneout]

Petroc has been criticised on this thread for his manner of breathing IIRC …. but to me at least he is a national treasure …… always MVVHO of course …

Which is why I found the Christmas Day offering a bit disappointing I think; an attempt at a different approach that didn't work for this listener. The river journey week in Yorkshire was so good though that it compensates for that in the year as a whole.
Does anyone know what reaction, if any, there has been to the 25th Dec programme? I thought I heard Petroc on (?)Monday quoting from a listener's message along the lines of classical music free zone.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Petroc has been criticised on this thread for his manner of breathing IIRC …. but to me at least he is a national treasure …… always MVVHO of course …

Not just Petroc. I think it must have been a directive to not leave any silences between sentences. Other presenters developed the same habit, so perhaps pointing the finger at one individual was wrong. However, National Treasure or not, Breakfast on Radio 3 remains a bleeding chunk jabbering disaster.

[seabright]

Not just Petroc. I think it must have been a directive to not leave any silences between sentences. Other presenters developed the same habit, so perhaps pointing the finger at one individual was wrong. However, National Treasure or not, Breakfast on Radio 3 remains a bleeding chunk jabbering disaster.

I find myself increasingly reaching for the 'off' switch when something ghastly comes on, which it usually does most mornings.

[french frank]

I find myself increasingly reaching for the 'off' switch when something ghastly comes on, which it usually does most mornings.

When I replied on the Essential Classics thread, I found I'd mistakenly written 'Breakfast' instead of 'Essential Classics'. But I only had to change the programme name, not the content of the post.

For me, a presenter can make a programme unlistenable by ruining the content: s/he/they can't make it listenable because listening to a programme isn't about the presenter. I'd amend that: it can't make a 'playlist' programme listenable. A feature/documentary is substantially about what the presenter has to say.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

For me, a presenter can make a programme unlistenable by ruining the content: s/he/they can't make it listenable because listening to a programme isn't about the presenter. I'd amend that: it can't make a 'playlist' programme listenable. A feature/documentary is substantially about what the presenter has to say.

It’s a pity the Radio 3 management team can’t understand that basic concept.

[french frank]

It’s a pity the Radio 3 management team can’t understand that basic concept.

It may be a 'basic concept' but it isn't one which even everyone here agrees with!

[Serial_Apologist]

Do I detect a currant of dissatisfaction?

In my case just one hot cross bun - preceded by the usual bran flakes...

[french frank]

In my case just one hot cross bun

Calm down, Cereal.

[cloughie]

Not just Petroc. I think it must have been a directive to not leave any silences between sentences. Other presenters developed the same habit, so perhaps pointing the finger at one individual was wrong. However, National Treasure or not, Breakfast on Radio 3 remains a bleeding chunk jabbering disaster.

His pace of delivery has mellowed, Alps - I’ve not always thought so but now I do think he is a really good broadcaster and his acquired knowledge has clearly helped his delivery. I think that he deserves more credit than given by some on the forum.

[Serial_Apologist]

Calm down, Cereal.

I think I detect something of the tone of David Cameron in there!