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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8458

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Ants in his pants?
    Perhaps he had no knicks on.

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    • Ein Heldenleben
      Full Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 6779

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      Has it displaced the Short Ride?
      Actually you are right - I think it goes
      Ride
      Shaker
      Chairman

      Suffolk coastal can confirm at year end ...

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22119

        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
        Actually you are right - I think it goes
        Ride
        Shaker
        Chairman

        Suffolk coastal can confirm at year end ...
        ...and ne’er a tune to be found!

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6779

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          ...and ne’er a tune to be found!
          That depends on what you mean by tune . Schoenberg has tunes but you need a keen ear to whistle them...

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22119

            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
            That depends on what you mean by tune . Schoenberg has tunes but you need a keen ear to whistle them...
            Easier than Adams or Glass!

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37674

              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
              That depends on what you mean by tune . Schoenberg has tunes but you need a keen ear to whistle them...
              He went so far as to predict that "one day people will be whistling my tunes in the street". I sometimes try whistling, or singing, the opening theme to the Piano Concerto, a fairly strict late 12-tone work. Taking comparatively straight conventional melodic contours out of the diatonic context and placing them within a total chromatic harmonic matrix has the rather wonderful result of de-banalizing them and making them sound fresh once more. However, it was particularly this that post-war serialists objected to, logically pointing out that melodicism in general, and melodic development in sonata variational forms was an archaism, dependent on diatonic tonality, and by deduction therefore no longer valid. Minimalism originated partly in reaction to this reaction; yet it was still a form of abstraction in its early manifestations, excluding melodic invention in its early manifestations.

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              • AuntDaisy
                Host
                • Jun 2018
                • 1635

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                He went so far as to predict that "one day people will be whistling my tunes in the street". I sometimes try whistling, or singing, the opening theme to the Piano Concerto, a fairly strict late 12-tone work. Taking comparatively straight conventional melodic contours out of the diatonic context and placing them within a total chromatic harmonic matrix has the rather wonderful result of de-banalizing them and making them sound fresh once more. However, it was particularly this that post-war serialists objected to, logically pointing out that melodicism in general, and melodic development in sonata variational forms was an archaism, dependent on diatonic tonality, and by deduction therefore no longer valid. Minimalism originated partly in reaction to this reaction; yet it was still a form of abstraction in its early manifestations, excluding melodic invention in its early manifestations.
                Does anyone remember "Rainer Hersch 's 20th-century Retrospective" on R3 in 1998?

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37674

                  Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                  Does anyone remember "Rainer Hersch 's 20th-century Retrospective" on R3 in 1998?
                  Not personally, no. Wonder how I managed to miss this: it would have been right up my tone row!

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6779

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Just checked the playlist - every one a winner but how many were ruined by Blackburn talking over them?

                    Lizzie’s offerings were dire this morning - she must have an ear which enjoys the jarring sounds she majors in playing - real headache inducing stuff - dreadful. A question for forumites - does anyone like Shaker Loops - if so why? Is it just a noise or is there something musical about it that I am clearly missing?
                    Downthread I suggested Shaker loops was the Adams default piece and guess what it’s now on Essential Classics. A good piece to make pots to apparently. Trying to sing along -tricky..

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22119

                      Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                      Downthread I suggested Shaker loops was the Adams default piece and guess what it’s now on Essential Classics. A good piece to make pots to apparently. Trying to sing along -tricky..
                      Surprise, surprise - switched off - hopefully now finished so I’ll return.

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                        Downthread I suggested Shaker loops was the Adams default piece...
                        So no more short rides on fast machines?
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • oddoneout
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9184

                          Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                          So no more short rides on fast machines?
                          No, we're going round the bend now...

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22119

                            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                            No, we're going round the bend now...
                            Must be listening to too much Adams!

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8458

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Must be listening to too much Adams!
                              Or imbibing too much Adnams.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                                That depends on what you mean by tune . Schoenberg has tunes but you need a keen ear to whistle them...
                                The problem is that they never change key.

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