Personally I hanker after the days when Radio 3 was a completely news free zone!
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostThis happened during the first lockdown and was re-introduced in December, I think when London went into Tier 4. Petroc Trelawny made it clear at the time that it was again a temporary measure, as did Paul Guinery when he played the piano in the studio on Christmas Day (when two of the other Radio 3 regulars Viji Alles and Susan Rae also submitted party pieces). The only morning bulletin is at 8 am, nothing earlier. It's a longer bulletin than I would like (possibly as long as 5 minutes), and the 1 pm bulletin delayed the start of the Wigmore Hall lunchtime concerts, resulting in them frequently spilling over beyond 2 pm. The voices of the newsreaders are often not to my snobbish taste either (very Radio 2-ish). But it's easy to see why they have felt the need to do it.
I haven't been aware of this resulting in more adverts or trailers - as far as I recall they have for a long time not been linked to the news summary slot.
I would suggest that you ask Lyric fm to consider lending you one of their honey-toned presenters but get the impression that he or she probably wouldn't be to everyone's taste! As for the shame of having to share news bulletins with BBC Radio 2 - well ...!
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Originally posted by Leinster Lass View PostI have a friend who does what I'm told is a really good impression of Alvar Lidell, and another does Wilfred Pickles, who - I'm told - read the news during WWII before complaints - probably from the Home Counties - about his accent led to his removal. Thank Heavens we live in more enlightened times.
I would suggest that you ask Lyric fm to consider lending you one of their honey-toned presenters but get the impression that he or she probably wouldn't be to everyone's taste! As for the shame of having to share news bulletins with BBC Radio 2 - well ...!
Jill Anderson has the perfect voice for newsreading - they should have sacked the R2 loudmouth and given her the job.
R2 newsreading has not been the same since Fran Godfrey and Fenella Hadingham, similarly R4 Harriet Cass and Charlotte Green, though the latter reads Cowdenbeath and Stenhousemuir more seductively than was ever done in the past.Last edited by cloughie; 06-01-21, 09:58.
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Originally posted by Leinster Lass View PostI have a friend who does what I'm told is a really good impression of Alvar Lidell, and another does Wilfrid Pickles, who - I'm told - read the news during WWII before complaints - probably from the Home Counties - about his accent led to his removal. Thank Heavens we live in more enlightened times.
I would suggest that you ask Lyric fm to consider lending you one of their honey-toned presenters but get the impression that he or she probably wouldn't be to everyone's taste! As for the shame of having to share news bulletins with BBC Radio 2 - well ...!
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View PostPersonally I hanker after the days when Radio 3 was a completely news free zone!
May I co-hanker with you? (Although I don’t remember those days! ).
I take the view that if I want news, there are plenty of places to get it. I don’t want pandemic and murder and orange man-babies in the White House squashed up against Bach and Fauré, really"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostThe voices of the newsreaders are often not to my snobbish taste either (very Radio 2-ish).
I assume that the reasons for presenters not reading the news may be to do with the importance of the newsreader being available to accommodate late changes to the bulletin with breaking news, including how to deal with unusual names and other proper nouns.
There may also be some territorial issue here: I've been curious why who reads the weather on R3 has chopped and changed in recent times.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostIIRC in my early days as a frequent listener SMP used to read the news - very well IMVVHO - as well as presenting Breakfast ..... but I don’t think Rob C did on his shifts .......
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostI assume that the reasons for presenters not reading the news may be to do with the importance of the newsreader being available to accommodate late changes to the bulletin with breaking news, including how to deal with unusual names and other proper nouns.
Among some in authority, there is an automatic acceptance that every member of the population needs to know the latest breaking news as soon as possible after it starts to break. If one is that much of a news junkie, is R3 the station to be listening to? People may be quite happy to hear it on the evening TV news.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostTheoretically, that would (once) have been a good reason for R3 announcers and presenters to read the news, as they were capable of handling pronunciation. Andrew used to read the news when he was on the breakfast shift because (as I've mentioned before) I remember him losing his news sheets, apologising, and saying he'd read the headlines when/if he found them.
Among some in authority, there is an automatic acceptance that every member of the population needs to know the latest breaking news as soon as possible after it starts to break. If one is that much of a news junkie, is R3 the station to be listening to? People may be quite happy to hear it on the evening TV news.
As I discovered this morning at 8am(not intentionally) it's not just 'over to our xyz correspondent' but also vox pops. FCOL as they say - obviously I am sorry that a mother and child were evacuated from their house with only the nightclothes they stood up in, but do I really need to know that, right then, and hear her opinions? NO! Give me the headlines and let me get back to the music and Petroc and talking that, even if considered unnecessary by many, at least makes sense and isn't delivered with a blunt weapon round the ears.
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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostI am sorry to have to correct you but in the interests of historical accuracy I am not sure it is true to say that Wilfrid Pickles was removed from news duties following complaints . In fact he was recruited as a news reader because the BBC thought he would be difficult for the Nazis to impersonate from a station pretending to be the BBC . Although there were complaints he went on reading the news and at one stage hosted one of the BBC’s most popular programmes ‘Have A Go which commanded audiences over 20 million or so.
Just out of interest - what it is it that is aggressive about the 0800 and 1300 bulletins?
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Originally posted by Leinster Lass View PostJust goes to show you can't believe everything that family members claim to have been told!
Just out of interest - what it is it that is aggressive about the 0800 and 1300 bulletins?
I could be completely wrong but I have listened to thousands of hours of both R2 and R3 bulls over the years...
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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostI could be completely wrong but I have listened to thousands of hours of both R2 and R3 bulls over the years...It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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