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  • seabright
    Full Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 625

    Michael Tanner is spot on when he comes to Elizabeth Alker. I haven't listened to a Saturday morning Breakfast since the first day her unbelievably silly voice came over the air-waves ...

    Anyone who has listened regularly to Radio 3 over the decades — not to mention the Third Programme, which Radio 3 replaced in 1967, and which provided an incomparable musical education for many of us — can’t have failed to notice the change in style and standard of presentation. Listening to any radio announcer from

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8778

      Originally posted by seabright View Post
      Michael Tanner is spot on when he comes to Elizabeth Alker. I haven't listened to a Saturday morning Breakfast since the first day her unbelievably silly voice came over the air-waves ...

      https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...sing-children-
      Thank you very much.....

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      • antongould
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8778

        Originally posted by seabright View Post
        Michael Tanner is spot on when he comes to Elizabeth Alker. I haven't listened to a Saturday morning Breakfast since the first day her unbelievably silly voice came over the air-waves ...

        https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...sing-children-
        “Ian Skelly, co-author of a book with Prince Charles and reminiscent of old-style uncles, cracking semi-jokes and chuckling at them afterwards, though it’s unlikely that anyone else is. “ ........ oh no ....... !!!!!!

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        • antongould
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8778

          Originally posted by seabright View Post
          Michael Tanner is spot on when he comes to Elizabeth Alker. I haven't listened to a Saturday morning Breakfast since the first day her unbelievably silly voice came over the air-waves ...

          https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...sing-children-
          Presumably this chap is Lord Charles Moore’s butler ........ ??????

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26523

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Presumably this chap is Lord Charles Moore’s butler ........ ??????
            I agree with most* of what he says, and have never been in service....

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            *I might have spared Mr Skelly and replaced with Ms Molleson
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25193

              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
              I agree with most* of what he says, and have never been in service....

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              *I might have spared Mr Skelly and replaced with Ms Molleson
              We’re all working for the man , Cals. Well not pensioners, obvs.
              Anyway, I find Breakfast( just about) bearable with some presenters, and unbearable with others. Same goes for Essential Classics, although as background to activities such as working for the man.

              This proves beyond doubt that the presenter and their style is of critical importance.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • muzzer
                Full Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 1190

                “Tasteless and insufferable”. Ouch. No one is disagreeing though.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22114

                  I do feel maybe we are hounding a presenter because of one of many incompetent decisions by BBC management in making an unsuitable appointment. Another incompetent decision was the formula of the programme being totally unsuitable for its audience.

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                  • Leinster Lass
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2020
                    • 1099

                    I agree with much of what's been said regarding Saturday's Breakfast programme - but would I listen if Martin Handley, whom I admire, were to present the same choice of works? I think I probably would. It's almost as though the 2 weekend editions are aimed at very different audiences. On the plus side, the arrival of EA has meant that I've had the opportunity to play quite a few CDs which have been unjustly ignored for far too long.

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                    • Frances_iom
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2411

                      Possibly she is the only one willing to get up at the crack of dawn in Salford without having to be paid an excessive amount to travel up from London - gone are the days when presenters had a bed in the erstwhile Langham hotel (in late 60s its was home to BBC management + HR) 200 yards or so from BH

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30235

                        Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                        gone are the days when presenters had a bed in the erstwhile Langham hotel (in late 60s its was home to BBC management + HR) 200 yards or so from BH
                        Ah, yes, I remember it well! Roger Wright bought be a coffee there (he had camomile tea) and he walked out in exasperation and left me sitting there . That was nearly 15 years ago, and I'm still trying to explain what's wrong with Breakfast

                        PS Erstwhile?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Frances_iom
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 2411

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          PS Erstwhile?
                          It was a hotel pre war then acquired by the Beeb and used by management during the 60s when I briefly worked for Beeb but sometime later with the building of the White City centre it was sold and again became a hotel - ? I assume it was such when you were stood up by Roger - the road in front with an awkward pedestrian crossing was known as 'Promotion Alley'

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30235

                            Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                            It was a hotel pre war then acquired by the Beeb and used by management during the 60s when I briefly worked for Beeb but sometime later with the building of the White City centre it was sold and again became a hotel - ? I assume it was such when you were stood up by Roger - the road in front with an awkward pedestrian crossing was known as 'Promotion Alley'
                            Oh, I see. Not erstwhile hotel, erstwhile official Beeb base; now unofficial. Demotion Alley in my case!
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6740

                              Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                              It was a hotel pre war then acquired by the Beeb and used by management during the 60s when I briefly worked for Beeb but sometime later with the building of the White City centre it was sold and again became a hotel - ? I assume it was such when you were stood up by Roger - the road in front with an awkward pedestrian crossing was known as 'Promotion Alley'
                              It was also home to Radio training , the Langham studios ,equipped with Neve desks , where amongst other things the John Peel sessions were recorded . He would join the band for a pint before his programme in ( one of the BBC) clubs . It also had a cheap salad bar where in the 80’s most Fridays John Peel’s producer John Walters , who was a good jazz trumpeter , would do a free session with his band. There were beds where some on night shifts could get a few hours kip - most radio ( except R2 ) was off air 01.00 to 06.00 in those days. Sleep was not guaranteed - there was a ghost that several people claim to have seen ....
                              It’s now a £500 a night luxury hotel and most BBC staff couldn’t afford a tea there...

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                              • Leinster Lass
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2020
                                • 1099

                                I'm not the greatest fan of the 'Sounds Of the Earth' sequence on Sunday's 'Breakfast', but today's was truly magical - waves crashing onto a Norfolk beach, Roderick Williams singing 'Sea Fever', Charles Trenet singing 'La Mer' and an extract from Frank Bridge's 'The Sea' - what's not to like? I think Martin Handley is also to be commended for taking time to express so powerfully his obvious concern for locked-down and isolating choirs.

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