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  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5735

    Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
    She managed to garble it again at 8 am (though not quite as badly as at 7, when it came out as ‘Danielle Ja-Jawovsky’ which wasn’t even close). The silence on both occasions before Danielle started reading was palpable.
    I thought that too - but then wondered if the silence was something to do with EA being in a Salford studio, DJ in London.
    Maybe both....

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      This morning's display of infantile antics was another milestone in dumbing down. GM was encouraging the hyping-up of an alleged listener request for The Muppets, dragging it up between items. More of the "I want to be liked" characteristic of most R3 presenters (other than "I want to be hated SK)".
      I switched off in frustration of the idiocy of the whole debacle, though on viewing the listings, there was no reference to anything Muppetty.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8402

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        This morning's display of infantile antics was another milestone in dumbing down. GM was encouraging the hyping-up of an alleged listener request for The Muppets, dragging it up between items. More of the "I want to be liked" characteristic of most R3 presenters (other than "I want to be hated SK)".
        I switched off in frustration of the idiocy of the whole debacle, though on viewing the listings, there was no reference to anything Muppetty.
        She's promised/threatened to feature them during her next two-week stint. I'd be happy to endure a bit of Muppetry if she would promise not to play any Piazzolla for, say, 3 years.

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        • Cockney Sparrow
          Full Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 2281

          S Klein was on R4 Today yesterday with Lenny Henry, and said she always tried to play a piece composed by a Black/Ethnic Minority composer in her programmes. I'm not sure if this question is answered on these 898 pages but this implies she gets to choose the content......... (I don't listen to the weekday morning R3 programmes).

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9141

            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            This morning's display of infantile antics was another milestone in dumbing down. GM was encouraging the hyping-up of an alleged listener request for The Muppets, dragging it up between items. More of the "I want to be liked" characteristic of most R3 presenters (other than "I want to be hated SK)".
            I switched off in frustration of the idiocy of the whole debacle, though on viewing the listings, there was no reference to anything Muppetty.
            The Carmen aria was the Muppety bit, playing a 'proper' version rather than the one mentioned made by the Muppets - which I remember seeing and being amused by at some point in the (probably distant)past.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37589

              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
              The Carmen aria was the Muppety bit, playing a 'proper' version rather than the one mentioned made by the Muppets - which I remember seeing and being amused by at some point in the (probably distant)past.
              Aimed at the older demographic then, and well missing its target.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30235

                Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
                S Klein was on R4 Today yesterday with Lenny Henry, and said she always tried to play a piece composed by a Black/Ethnic Minority composer in her programmes. I'm not sure if this question is answered on these 898 pages but this implies she gets to choose the content......... (I don't listen to the weekday morning R3 programmes).
                I would expect her to have an input, but be too busy to compile a daily playlist There has to be a woman and a contemporary composer as well. Errollyn Wallen is an excellent choice. Then we can get back to business - Piazzolla, Gershwin, the Muppets
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26523

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  I would expect her to have an input, but be too busy to compile a daily playlist There has to be a woman and a contemporary composer as well. Errollyn Wallen is an excellent choice. Then we can get back to business - Piazzolla, Gershwin, the Muppets


                  You probably share my amazement that some here put themselves through the pain of listening to the tripe... admirably, so that we don’t have to?
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25193

                    Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post


                    You probably share my amazement that some here put themselves through the pain of listening to the tripe... admirably, so that we don’t have to?
                    Well at least the BBC don’t give her a million a year as she trashes the ratings.....

                    Do they ?
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9141

                      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post


                      You probably share my amazement that some here put themselves through the pain of listening to the tripe... admirably, so that we don’t have to?
                      Indeed, and reciprocated by the kind souls who listen to Harrison Birtwhistle, Steve Reich, Bruckner, et al so I don't have to.

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                      • muzzer
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 1190

                        SK sends me spare, but I’m willing to endure or indeed ignore her if she gets lots of new listeners in. Not sure there’s much evidence of that though.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30235

                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post


                          You probably share my amazement that some here put themselves through the pain of listening to the tripe... admirably, so that we don’t have to?
                          It's all very sad, Nick. As far as I'm concerned, Radio 3 ceased to exist some while ago. Listening on the radio at home to its vaunted 'live music' concerts and recitals is not so greatly different from listening at home to my CDs. I have no patience to pick over the dross for such gems as may still be heard, and haven't listened to any radio now for years. It's gone the same way as television for me. For those for whom it provides joy and entertainment, it serves a purpose.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Edgy 2
                            Guest
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 2035

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            It's all very sad, Nick. As far as I'm concerned, Radio 3 ceased to exist some while ago. Listening on the radio at home to its vaunted 'live music' concerts and recitals is not so greatly different from listening at home to my CDs. I have no patience to pick over the dross for such gems as may still be heard, and haven't listened to any radio now for years. It's gone the same way as television for me. For those for whom it provides joy and entertainment, it serves a purpose.


                            I rarely listen to Radio 3 live tending to pick out stuff on i player or sounds whatever it's called now
                            I don't really watch a great deal of tv,Talking Pictures sometimes,Football and the occasional music programme
                            Like you say if breakfast,essential classics and in tune are to someone's taste then fair enough,not for me though
                            “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                            • kernelbogey
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5735

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              It's all very sad, Nick. As far as I'm concerned, Radio 3 ceased to exist some while ago. Listening on the radio at home to its vaunted 'live music' concerts and recitals is not so greatly different from listening at home to my CDs. I have no patience to pick over the dross for such gems as may still be heard, and haven't listened to any radio now for years. It's gone the same way as television for me. For those for whom it provides joy and entertainment, it serves a purpose.
                              I find I go in phases. I had a run of listening to the whole of Breakfast with PT, then lapsed. Sunday with MH is almost a must. It's the same with television. Channel 4 News is pretty much a regular watch, since it knocks spots of the BBC News.

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8778

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                ......... For those for whom it provides joy and entertainment, it serves a purpose.
                                One of my few purposes, well and truly served .....

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