The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Serial_Apologist]

Serioully though, as should be immediately apparent to listeners:

I like that pun even better than LMcD's

She created rows so that she was able to compose serially within a diatonic sound world. Her row can be understood as three four note segments of the circle of fifths....

My tastes have caused a few rows in my time!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Well, yes....

I find PT and his selections useful in the morning to persuade my half-functioning brain and body to make the transition between drowsing in bed to getting up and "shaking a leg"....

In the year 30 BP (Before Petroc) the BBC used to think and plan a “Morning Concert” of a well-considered group of not-too-heavy works. It was a formula that worked, and as details were provided in advance in Radio Times, all one had to do was to access the ‘on’ switch. Now the reverse is the case. You need to switch on, not knowing what to expect, and then having to find the off switch to avoid the perpetual drivel of tweexts, trailers, gasping and padding.

[DracoM]

[Pulcinella]

Serioully though, as should be immediately apparent to listeners:

She created rows so that she was able to compose serially within a diatonic sound world. Her row can be understood as three four note segments of the circle of fifths....

A close cousin of Britten's in The turn of the screw, perhaps?

http://centralcityoperafestival.blogspot.com/2012/07/brittens-brilliant-twelve-tone-row-in.html

[Quarky]

A close cousin of Britten's in The turn of the screw, perhaps?

http://centralcityoperafestival.blog...ne-row-in.html

Well, yes, of course, many thanks .

Really must give Britten, and Opera in general, another go, after completing my reconnoitre through Haydn's symphonies.

My problem with Britten is not so much the music as choice of subject (Grimes, Turn of the Screw...), which were not to my taste. Other works however, Curlew River, Rape of Lucretia, Noyes Flodde, were absolutely fine.

[LMcD]

Well, yes, of course, many thanks .

Really must give Britten, and Opera in general, another go, after completing my reconnoitre through Haydn's symphonies.

My problem with Britten is not so much the music as choice of subject (Grimes, Turn of the Screw...), which were not to my taste. Other works however, Curlew River, Rape of Lucretia, Noyes Flodde, were absolutely fine.

The only operas I can watch are by Britten. The only one that I really can't 'get into' is 'Death In Venice'.
I think the storm scene in Peter Grimes, culminating in Grimes's irruption into the pub, is absolutely astonishing, and 'Albert Herring' is a masterly dissection of small-town life and attitudes.

[cloughie]

I’ve recently started to listen to Breakfast again - Petroc seems much more relaxed and I must say that a lot of the music chosen is a gentle start to the day. Not sure about the ‘Proms in the Park’ selection for this week’s singalong. Georgia’s presentation and choices fine last week - and Nessun Dorma a bit of fun to stretch the top end. The weekend shows were less enjoyable and can’t see thep oint of the sounds on Saturday or the mixing of bird song with music on Sundays, but then to pinch a quote from another thread ‘you can’t always get what you want.

[Nick Armstrong]

the ‘Proms in the Park’ selection for this week’s singalong.

.... and with that simple phrase, he removes any inclination to investigate the New & Improved Petroc...

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The only operas I can watch are by Britten. The only one that I really can't 'get into' is 'Death In Venice'.

20 years ago I took my teenage daughter to Britten’s “A Midsummer Night’s Dream” in Leeds Grand Theatre. She hadn’t seen any live opera before, but she liked Shakespeare. I wasn’t sure how she would take it, but she was thrilled, and asked whether any other operas were as good as this one.
Dumbing down presenters please note.

[oddoneout]

.... and with that simple phrase, he removes any inclination to investigate the New & Improved Petroc...

The alternative (descriptive) 'A British folk song medley' probably wouldn't do any better?
Digressing slightly this shows what PITP means for some https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...es-in-pictures

[LMcD]

The Proms are just another example of an event that has become bigger and more cumbersome - other examples include the expansion of the European Champions League and other soccer competitions and the Eurovision Song Contest, the increasing frequency in episodes of TV soaps, press reviews on TV (there used to be just one a week - 'What The Papers Say' with Brian Inglis). The worst offender is the Olympic Games, where it's only a matter of time before rose-pruning is included in the ever-expanding list of events. Big doesn't necessarily mean better, and can often mean worse.

[Frances_iom]

The Proms are just another example of an event that has become bigger and more cumbersome ...

I found a stash of old Prom's books - earliest 1972 a slim booklet listing concerts + performers cast 15p - by 1996 had become a fairly thick paper back costing £3 95 (if any one wants these 15 programmes for cost of postage pm me)

[LMcD]

I found a stash of old Prom's books - earliest 1972 a slim booklet listing concerts + performers cast 15p - by 1996 had become a fairly thick paper back costing £3 95 (if any one wants these 15 programmes for cost of postage pm me)

The 2020 Proms Guide has (will have/would have had?) 182 pages.

[cloughie]

The alternative (descriptive) 'A British folk song medley' probably wouldn't do any better?
Digressing slightly this shows what PITP means for some https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...es-in-pictures

I fear this thread is getting a bit cheesy! (appropriate grin inserted)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The worst offender is the Olympic Games, where it's only a matter of time before rose-pruning is included in the ever-expanding list of events.

So true. And once the BBC has over-inflated everything, it finds itself needing to make cuts.