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  • Joseph K
    Banned
    • Oct 2017
    • 7765

    Originally posted by antongould View Post
    Generational Shift surely - to what the BBC is constantly told has to be its target audience she sounds fine .....
    I admit, I like her voice.

    But the music she plays could be better IMO. I am old enough to remember when you could find out all the music that would be playing in the Radio Times. No nonsense, just music (complete works, too). But it's not just EA who is guilty of that.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30235

      Originally posted by antongould View Post
      Generational Shift surely - to what the BBC is constantly told has to be its target audience she sounds fine .....
      Yes. But if the station has an audience which has an average age of 60, how are you going to cater for that audience rather than just say, 'We want a different, younger audience.'

      In 20-odd years I'm hard put to think of a single programme which was catering unequivocally for, regardless of age, Radio 3's existing classical audience. CD Masters might just creep into the time frame but disappeared long ago. Ah, just thought of one - Early Music Late , though replacing, eventually, the dropped 2nd EMS.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • antongould
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8778

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Yes. But if the station has an audience which has an average age of 60, how are you going to cater for that audience rather than just say, 'We want a different, younger audience.'

        In 20-odd years I'm hard put to think of a single programme which was catering unequivocally for, regardless of age, Radio 3's existing classical audience. CD Masters might just creep into the time frame but disappeared long ago. Ah, just thought of one - Early Music Late , though replacing, eventually, the dropped 2nd EMS.
        Yes but the view of the masters/government would seem to be that you don’t need to fulfil that audience as they are captive - wrong I know - but it seems, to me at least, the way it is

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        • Richard Tarleton

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Ah, just thought of one - Early Music Late
          But the existing audience likely to go to bed earlier. I've never listened to EML.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            But the existing audience likely to go to bed earlier. I've never listened to EML.
            I hardly listen to the programme ‘live’. It’s my Monday treat.

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9141

              Not all presenters are afraid of listener correction...Yesterday, Georgia Mann introducing a duet from Donizetti's Poliuto, admitted she wasn't sure about the pronunciation of Saint Polyeuctus, and asked that listeners feel free to correct her - and it wasn't in the spirit of irony or sarkiness that I could discern(I don't think that is her MO in any case)

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              • Sir Velo
                Full Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 3225

                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                Not all presenters are afraid of listener correction...Yesterday, Georgia Mann introducing a duet from Donizetti's Poliuto, admitted she wasn't sure about the pronunciation of Saint Polyeuctus, and asked that listeners feel free to correct her - and it wasn't in the spirit of irony or sarkiness that I could discern(I don't think that is her MO in any case)
                Suspect that would have to led to a "pointless" answer.

                However, it does make you wonder what has happened to the BBC Pronunciation Unit if presenters no longer consult with them on such matters. Or, was this an admission that the PU had no idea?

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                  However, it does make you wonder what has happened to the BBC Pronunciation Unit if presenters no longer consult with them on such matters. Or, was this an admission that the PU had no idea?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30235

                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Marc-André Hamelin pronounces his name wrongly too
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8402

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Marc-André Hamelin pronounces his name wrongly too
                      Speaking - well, writing - as one who has generally been more inclined to defend 'Breakfast' than attack it, I can't help noticing the apparent inclusion of more bleeding chunks that would fit very well in CFM's 'Hall of Fame'. Yesterday, for example, it was 'Nimrod', and today it's Barber's 'Adagio'.
                      … followed by 'Vissi d'arte' (although, to be fair, this is connection with the Opera Wards and a message from Leontyne Price).

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        Perhaps Barber’s Adagio bleeds less than Nimrod, the former being an independent movement from a string quartet, rather than being through-composed. But I agree that the principle is the same.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8402

                          Can-Can anyone guess what's playing now?
                          At last - something more substantial (the whole of the 3rd movement of the Brahms Violin Concerto )
                          Last edited by LMcD; 30-04-19, 07:52.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            The BBC is so devoid of ideas. When they think of something - anything at all - they flog it to death.

                            Playing tunes backwards
                            Adding to playlist
                            Dumbing down
                            Twofers
                            Dipping into the Proms
                            Special Guests
                            Text
                            Email
                            Tweet
                            Talking over music
                            Celebrities

                            The latest thing is an obsessive fixation on Jess Gillam. That said, she did put out a strong and positive message on BBC1 Breakfast this morning, in spite of the smirking presenters.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              This morning I learnt something new. There’s to be a performance in Gloucester of a work called ‘Chichester Psalms’ by Britten.

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8402

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                This morning I learnt something new. There’s to be a performance in Gloucester of a work called ‘Chichester Psalms’ by Britten.
                                That's right - it's a late replacement for Bernstein's 'War Requiem', the scores for which went astray in the post.

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