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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12936

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    the harpsichord is the 'clavecin historique du chateau d' Assas'. I'll try and find more info for you...

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    • oddoneout
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      • Nov 2015
      • 9272

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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      the harpsichord is the 'clavecin historique du chateau d' Assas'. I'll try and find more info for you...

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      Oh thank you. What intrigued me was that it sounded at some points as if there was a continuo instrument - of the bowed variety - playing as well.

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12936

        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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        the harpsichord is the 'clavecin historique du chateau d' Assas'. I'll try and find more info for you...

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        ... a famous harpsichord - it was on this instrument at Assas that Scott Ross recorded his magnificent complete Couperin and Rameau, and most of his Scarlatti. It is attributed to the maker Pierrre Donzelague, established in Lyon in 1688.

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        • alycidon
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 459

          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
          Even by Breakfast standards the 'link' I've just heard was bad. An entertaining chunk of harpsichord music(Le vertigo by Royer) wasn't even allowed to die away before having a snippet(not even a fillet let alone a 'b...chunk') of Vertigo film music slapped on the end. My first though was a technical mistake - 'play' button pushed too early - but no it was intentional.
          I listen to the morning schedules so have suspect standards evidently, but I do have my limits and this breached them - and spoilt enjoyment of something new to me(the Royer, not the film music......) I now want to follow up is the instrument involved though, as it seemed particularly 'muscular' in the more dramatic sections of the piece.
          Quite right. I never cease to marvel at the way so-called musical presenters can mash up the listeners’ pleasure by their unthoughtful antics.
          Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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          • Stanfordian
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            • Dec 2010
            • 9322

            Originally posted by alycidon View Post
            Quite right. I never cease to marvel at the way so-called musical presenters can mash up the listeners’ pleasure by their unthoughtful antics.
            It's pitiful. And these are paid professionals cocking-up.
            Last edited by Stanfordian; 29-01-19, 13:32.

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            • hmvman
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              • Mar 2007
              • 1121

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              ...no one in the UK will be troubled by a Haydn Quartet from any broadcasting station before lunchtime.
              Petroc played the whole of 'The Lark' this morning, ferney, at about 08.40.

              Very enjoyable it was too.

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              • underthecountertenor
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                • Apr 2011
                • 1586

                Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                Petroc played the whole of 'The Lark' this morning, ferney, at about 08.40.

                Very enjoyable it was too.
                Indeed it was - the Hagen Quartet's fine recording.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                  Petroc played the whole of 'The Lark' this morning, ferney, at about 08.40.
                  Hurrah!

                  Very enjoyable it was too.
                  Haydn - goes without saying
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • oddoneout
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                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9272

                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                    It's pitiful. And these are paid professionals cocking-up.
                    So you get a better standard of cock-up.......

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                    • underthecountertenor
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                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1586

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Hurrah!


                      Haydn - goes without saying
                      I thought you might suggest that one lark doth not a summer make.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                        I thought you might suggest that one lark doth not a summer make.
                        Well, as hmvman was specifically pointing out that my earlier claim had been disproven this morning, I thought it polite to concede the point.

                        You are quite right - waiting nearly a fortnight for a complete Haydn S4tet (or equivalent/similar repertoire) doesn't suggest a change of attitude. As the morning programme schedules I've been posting on the Today's the Day Thread richly prove, it was a very different matter, 30, 40, and 50 years ago, when such repertoire was standard fare. I've avoided 1999 on that Thread, but even a quarter of a century ago (Weds 26th Jan, 1994), the work being broadcast at 8:40 was the 20-minute Schumann Op88 Fantasiestucke. The day before, it had been Haydn's 29-minute Symphony #60; the day after, Mozart's 30-minute K467 Piano Concerto - it was a daily pleasure (and followed, and was followed by, other substantial works [as well as shorter, self-contained pieces]) not an occasional treat that had to be pointed out like an Armani suit in a charity shop.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8638

                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Relating to the issue of listeners having little or no advance warning of what is going to be played, I recall the weekly excitement of buying the Radio Times, and marking the works I wanted to hear, as indicated on the Radio 3 page (and Radios 3 & 4 had a page each - as much as the entire radio network now gets in total).

                          Consequently, I learnt a great deal about music for many years. Now I learn about how Antonia Squigglethwaite first heard Clair de Lune when her rabbit accidentally dipped its foot in a pot of molasses in her new kitchen. And in the next programme, I learn that the presenter is still the school bully.
                          I stopped buying the Radio Times because the programme details were increasingly out of date and/or incorrect - and somebody who contributes to the programme previews on Saturday seems to be absolutely OBSESSED with 'Dad's Army'. Some weeks, none of the longer articles were of any interest to either of us.

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                          • underthecountertenor
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1586

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                            Now I learn about how Antonia Squigglethwaite first heard Clair de Lune when her rabbit accidentally dipped its foot in a pot of molasses in her new kitchen. And in the next programme, I learn that the presenter is still the school bully.
                            I don't think Petroc goes in for the Antonia Squigglethwaite-type anecdote these days - I get the impression that he did so in the past 'under orders' but that these days he is allowed to be his own man.

                            On the other hand, that trailer for Breakfast which we got repeatedly a few weeks ago featured Georgia Mann talking about someone 'twirling around the kitchen, piece of toast in one hand, cat on my shoulder,' which was itself irritating in and of itself, but also because Mann wrongly emphasised the word 'one'. To use that as part of an oft-repeated trailer was as if they were going out of their way to annoy.

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9322

                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                              I stopped buying the Radio Times because the programme details were increasingly out of date and/or incorrect - and somebody who contributes to the programme previews on Saturday seems to be absolutely OBSESSED with 'Dad's Army'. Some weeks, none of the longer articles were of any interest to either of us.
                              Us too!

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                              • Pulcinella
                                Host
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 11062

                                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                                I don't think Petroc goes in for the Antonia Squigglethwaite-type anecdote these days - I get the impression that he did so in the past 'under orders' but that these days he is allowed to be his own man.

                                On the other hand, that trailer for Breakfast which we got repeatedly a few weeks ago featured Georgia Mann talking about someone 'twirling around the kitchen, piece of toast in one hand, cat on my shoulder,' which was itself irritating in and of itself, but also because Mann wrongly emphasised the word 'one'. To use that as part of an oft-repeated trailer was as if they were going out of their way to annoy.
                                So did we never find out what was in the other hand?
                                Not that I care!

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