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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8636

    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    A fine example of Britten's skilful pianism.

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8636

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      R3 should have taken the bait! I guess they didn't trawl the repertoire!
      Try looking in the net!

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
        A fine example of Britten's skilful pianism.
        In the writing, certainly - but on that recording the pianist is Malcolm Martineau.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9271

          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          Norman Lumsden, who was a member of the English Opera Group and the original Quince in Britten's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', was born 102 years ago today. But, as Martin Handley reminded us, he became much more famous years later as 'J R Hartley' in the Yellow Pages TV commercial. What more fitting way to mark his birthday than with Bing Crosby and Louis Armstrong singing 'Gone Fishin'?
          (It's dead educational, is 'Breakfast'!)
          Ah so that was the link - or should I say ling as we are in piscatorial mode? - I was elsewhere for the bit between Norman Lumsden and the beginning of the music and was a bit puzzled.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30455

            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            Ah so that was the link - or should I say ling as we are in piscatorial mode? - I was elsewhere for the bit between Norman Lumsden and the beginning of the music and was a bit puzzled.
            And I missed the ling about him being a true bass.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8636

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              In the writing, certainly - but on that recording the pianist is Malcolm Martineau.
              Whoops!

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25225

                Lovely Aria by Hasse sung beautifully by Jakub Josef Orlinski this morning.

                From his new album,which apparently has 8 previously unrecorded arias . Looks like Warner want to make him into a star.

                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30455

                  Keep listening, all - as far as I can see, first glance at figures, Breakfast is what's keeping R3 afloat. No wonder they daren't make changes.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25225

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    Keep listening, all - as far as I can see, first glance at figures, Breakfast is what's keeping R3 afloat. No wonder they daren't make changes.
                    Purely personal, but I find I can more or less cope with Breakfast when Petroc is on. I wonder if he is good for ratings , compared to other presenters .
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30455

                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Purely personal, but I find I can more or less cope with Breakfast when Petroc is on. I wonder if he is good for ratings , compared to other presenters .
                      It was suggested (in an article about CB-H) that CB-H boosted figures when she took over from SM-P ('Figures released this week, showed that the breakfast show has added 130,000 new listeners since the arrival of Ms Burton-Hill,'), but I doubt that presenters, especially those sharing duties, make a lot of difference. The weekly figure is a the average of 12-13 weeks; and in any case, I just don't think that listeners who want their fix in the early morning go to CFM every other week or so, or stop listening until their favourite presenter returns.

                      It should be said that last quarter's figure, 636k, is a usual ballpark figure, albeit at the higher end: nothing remarkable. Radio 3 overall, yet again, failed to pass the 2 million mark.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • doversoul1
                        Ex Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7132

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        Lovely Aria by Hasse sung beautifully by Jakub Josef Orlinski this morning.

                        From his new album,which apparently has 8 previously unrecorded arias . Looks like Warner want to make him into a star.

                        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anima-Sacra...words=orlinski
                        I can’t give you the spot where he comes in but if you have a chance to watch this, you’ll see why Warner wants t make Jakub Josef Orlinski a star.

                        L’Arpeggiata o.l.v. Christina Pluhar speelt de mooiste aria's van Cavalli tijdens het Festival Oude Muziek Utrecht.Uitvoerenden:L’Arpeggiata o.l.v. Christina...

                        Cavalli - L'Arpeggiata o.l.v. Christina Pluhar - Festival Oude Muziek Utrecht 2016

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30455

                          Correction: I was looking at the previous quarter's figure. Breakfast didn't have a reach of 636k, but the rather less good 579k last quarter. A lot of the listening across the board seems to have been down last quarter so there's probably no reason to point at Radio 3's performance in particular. However, for a Proms quarter, it looks like the third lowest (1.934m) since 1999, when these comparable records began.

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          It should be said that last quarter's figure, 636k, is a usual ballpark figure, albeit at the higher end: nothing remarkable. Radio 3 overall, yet again, failed to pass the 2 million mark.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Zucchini
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 917

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            A lot of the listening across the board seems to have been down last quarter so there's probably no reason to point at Radio 3's performance in particular...
                            Most likely reason, the sustained hot summer?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30455

                              Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                              Most likely reason, the sustained hot summer?
                              Very probably. So one can feed Radio 3's results into the data base without coming to any particular conclusions about them, without more information …
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8636

                                Originally posted by maestro267 View Post

                                Personally, I think that 'Breakfast' is there for those who don't want to be bombarded with 'heavy' music (even in terms of length) first thing in the morning. There's always your record collection to delve into if you want to hear a full 45-minute symphony at 7am. There is an off-switch on your radio. Use it if need be.
                                After a prolonged 'defection' to Radio 4, I'm now firmly back in the 'Breakfast' fold. The choice of words and music as we approach 11.11.2018 has at times been inspired and deeply moving. I've just been listening to the words of Rupert Brooke spoken by Tim Piggott-Smith and sung by Roderick Williams. Unlike certain other presenters, Petroc doesn't seem to feel the need to prove anything.

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