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  • Andrew Slater
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1793

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    The playlist can't make up its mind whose Karelia Suite - Ballade, op 11 was played. When I first looked it said Carl Nielsen, Ballade from Karelia Suite, Op. 11. Just googling to find out what Nielsen's op 11 was (Humoreske-Bagateller for solo piano). Back to check the playlist and it was Sibelius's Karelia Suite, for orchestra. Must have made a mistake - but I had the old tab still open. Definitely said Nielsen. Back to check a third time. No, composer was the Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Wait a few minutes and check again. Definitely Sibelius. They all look a bit like Carl Nielsen, though.
    I suppose it explains why Georgia Mann announced it as Nielsen (and corrected herself afterwards) - the announcers must be reading their script from the same source as the playlists.

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    • underthecountertenor
      Full Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1584

      Originally posted by DaisyDog View Post
      And now, Saturday morning, we have Tom McKinney blazing his way through Record Review. Hurry back to your rightful home Andrew McGregor. You are greatly missed. And you never gabble.
      I thought he was fine. Knowledgeable, engaged and engaging.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25210

        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
        I thought he was fine. Knowledgeable, engaged and engaging.
        I agree. He’s a good and distinctive addition to the R3 team, and doing full programmes such as RR Will help him to improve further.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
          I thought he was fine. Knowledgeable, engaged and engaging.
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          I agree. He’s a good and distinctive addition to the R3 team, and doing full programmes such as RR Will help him to improve further.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 10949

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            And another for him on RR here.
            A refreshing change from AMcG imho!

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30301

              Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
              I suppose it explains why Georgia Mann announced it as Nielsen (and corrected herself afterwards) - the announcers must be reading their script from the same source as the playlists.
              My thought too. Presenters are given information, and if production staff give them wrong information (some) presenters don't have enough knowledge to correct mistakes. Karelia Suite by Nielsen, fair enough. And the knowledgeable CBH credited Arthur Butterworth with being composer, and being killed in WW1, of a work by George Butterworth (well enough known, one would have thought). But most of the R3 presenters under the age of 50 are pretty clueless. I'm not persuaded that classical music plays a large part - to the extent that they've gained a broad knowledge - in their (musical) lives.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Stanfordian
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 9312

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                The playlist can't make up its mind whose Karelia Suite - Ballade, op 11 was played. When I first looked it said Carl Nielsen, Ballade from Karelia Suite, Op. 11. Just googling to find out what Nielsen's op 11 was (Humoreske-Bagateller for solo piano). Back to check the playlist and it was Sibelius's Karelia Suite, for orchestra. Must have made a mistake - but I had the old tab still open. Definitely said Nielsen. Back to check a third time. No, composer was the Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Wait a few minutes and check again. Definitely Sibelius. They all look a bit like Carl Nielsen, though.

                Maybe it's the handiwork an intern; likely a relative of a BBC knob.

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8472

                  Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                  Maybe it's the handiwork an intern; likely a relative of a BBC knob.
                  Perhaps it's that chap from 'W1A' to whom everything was 'cool'. The playlists are about as reliable as the Radio Times (which I recently stopped buying after Heaven know how many years - I can't say I've missed it).

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                  • DaisyDog
                    Full Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 54

                    Bravo! My thoughts exactly. Well said ff.

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8472

                      Norman Lumsden, who was a member of the English Opera Group and the original Quince in Britten's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', was born 102 years ago today. But, as Martin Handley reminded us, he became much more famous years later as 'J R Hartley' in the Yellow Pages TV commercial. What more fitting way to mark his birthday than with Bing Crosby and Louis Armstrong singing 'Gone Fishin'?
                      (It's dead educational, is 'Breakfast'!)

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22126

                        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                        Norman Lumsden, who was a member of the English Opera Group and the original Quince in Britten's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', was born 102 years ago today. But, as Martin Handley reminded us, he became much more famous years later as 'J R Hartley' in the Yellow Pages TV commercial. What more fitting way to mark his birthday than with Bing Crosby and Louis Armstrong singing 'Gone Fishin'?
                        (It's dead educational, is 'Breakfast'!)
                        I have nothing against Bing and Louis - great duo, good song but he could of course have stuck to something classical and played 'Old Joe has gone fishing' from Peter Grimes! You won't hear the Britten on R1 2 or 6 breakfast programmes!

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          I have nothing against Bing and Louis - great duo, good song but he could of course have stuck to something classical and played 'Old Joe has gone fishing' from Peter Grimes!
                          Or even:

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22126

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            R3 should have taken the bait! I guess they didn't trawl the repertoire!

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              - you're on top form this morning, cloughie!


                              (Whaddyamean "too early in the morning"? That's breakfast chez ferney!)
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30301

                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                                Norman Lumsden, who was a member of the English Opera Group and the original Quince in Britten's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', was born 102 years ago today.
                                Who'd've thought of looking for a recording - if not of the man himself (according to Wiki described by Britten as "that rare British product, a true bass"), at least of someone else singing one of his roles (and he was the original Superintendent Budd in Albert … Herring ) ? Too early in the morning for Britten, I suppose.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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