The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Pulcinella]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

And Mr Wright certainly got more than two things rong.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

And Mr Wright certainly got more than two things rong.

His legacy lives on.

[LMcD]

Now playing: a Bach-inspired take on The Beatles' 'You've Got To Hide Your Love Away'. Almost in the same league as the Peter Sellers/Laurence Olivier version of 'A Hard Day's Night'. Joshua Rifkin's the man to thank, apparently.

[kernelbogey]

A faceless, unidentifiable voice that provides interesting, accurate information, in a listenable voice, is fine by me.

...and announcements in the style of RAI3, ORF et al:
Beethoven: Sonata for piano number 21 in C, Opus 53,'Waldstein':
Allegro con brio; Adagio molto; Rondo, allegro moderato - Prestissimo
Daniel Barenboim

Cue music

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

...and announcements in the style of RAI3, ORF et al:
Beethoven: Sonata for piano number 21 in C, Opus 53,'Waldstein':
Allegro con brio; Adagio molto; Rondo, allegro moderato - Prestissimo
Daniel Barenboim

Cue music

Nah! We want to hear how Elena Poppleton, of Little Smurf in Dorset, plays the opening of the sonata to her dog to encourage her to run around the room, rather than messing with the flower arrangements sent to her by her nephew, Cuthbert Cringeworthy of Bash Street School. It helps to take the mind off the boring music.

Anyway, who'd want to listen to three whole movements by a composer named after a dog?

[Serial_Apologist]

Nah! We want to hear how Elena Poppleton, of Little Smurf in Dorset, plays the opening of the sonata to her dog to encourage her to run around the room, rather than messing with the flower arrangements, sent to her by her nephew, Cuthbert Cringeworthy of Bash Street School. It helps to take the mind of the boring music.

Anyway, who'd want to listen to three whole movements by a composer named after a dog?

Only if he or she is Labrador-current.

[LMcD]

If the dog misbehaves, she could always threaten to play it something by Wolf-Ferrari.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Only if he or she is Labrador-current.

I thought it was a St Bernard.

[french frank]

...and announcements in the style of RAI3, ORF et al:
Beethoven: Sonata for piano number 21 in C, Opus 53,'Waldstein':
Allegro con brio; Adagio molto; Rondo, allegro moderato - Prestissimo
Daniel Barenboim

Cue music

I'm really not sure what anyone could object to, if their interest is primarily in the music. After all, one thing that it's pretty certain listeners with diverse tastes will all have in common with each other is an interest in classical music. Otherwise, why are they listening to Radio 3 at that time of day?

The more they start introducing features like guests, quizzes, a broader range of music, anecdotes from listeners, even requests, the less likely it becomes that many of this diverse audience are going to be satisfied.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Thing is no one , no matter how much audience research they do and how much they focus group , knows what the audience wants apart from the obvious - like England doing well in the World Cup.

[kernelbogey]

I'm really not sure what anyone could object to, if their interest is primarily in the music. After all, one thing that it's pretty certain listeners with diverse tastes will all have in common with each other is an interest in classical music. Otherwise, why are they listening to Radio 3 at that time of day?

The more they start introducing features like guests, quizzes, a broader range of music, anecdotes from listeners, even requests, the less likely it becomes that many of this diverse audience are going to be satisfied.

[oddoneout]

What's increasingly driving me away from Breakfast(and EC) is not the non-R3 frippery(which in any case has had much of the worst bits removed), but the barrage of trailers. Endless application of aural coshes delivered with the patronising message that unless I am repeatedly shouted at I won't know what to listen to. You think bleeding chunks and repeated playings of popular pieces are bad - what about several(insert term) snippets crudely sellotaped together with a voiceover added broadcast at frequent intervals throughout the morning. Bad enough for one off programmes, but COTW and the Proms - really?

[Stanfordian]

What's increasingly driving me away from Breakfast(and EC) is not the non-R3 frippery(which in any case has had much of the worst bits removed), but the barrage of trailers. Endless application of aural coshes delivered with the patronising message that unless I am repeatedly shouted at I won't know what to listen to. You think bleeding chunks and repeated playings of popular pieces are bad - what about several(insert term) snippets crudely sellotaped together with a voiceover added broadcast at frequent intervals throughout the morning. Bad enough for one off programmes, but COTW and the Proms - really?

A much used method (on TV) of reducing content.

[Zucchini]

What's increasingly driving me away from Breakfast(and EC) is not the non-R3 frippery(which in any case has had much of the worst bits removed), but the barrage of trailers.

The average duration of listening to Breakfast (and not fully attentive at that) is of the order half an hour.

How many trailers will the average listener be exposed to? Five? Ten? Twenty?

[LMcD]

The average duration of listening to Breakfast (and not fully attentive at that) is of the order half an hour.

How many trailers will the average listener be exposed to? Five? Ten? Twenty?

According to PT (who presumably should know) the average listen is 'about 20 minutes' He was speaking on Radio 4's 'Feedback' on 6th April - still available on iPlayer Radio, about 23 minutes in.