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  • oddoneout
    Full Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 9141

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    A robot would be less insulting to the listeners, and wouldn't need. To. Breathe.
    Well.... Doesn't that depend on how it's programmed? Those electronic back seat drivers seem to annoy people sufficiently to choose to turn them off and take a chance on getting lost, and if the robot style is modelled on someone whose delivery or manner is already a source of irritation then not much progress has been made - or at least not for the listeners.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30235

      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      A robot you mean?
      The idea that the only alternative to the individual, 'Hey, it's ME', celebrity cult presenter is a robot could only be seriously contemplated by an imagination-free adult or an under-12 child. But you, of course, weren't be serious, were you, Gongers?

      As it happens the natural timbre and general pitch of the voice, possibly its accent, are quite enough to distinguish one faceless voice from another. And a little practice and a good ear will enable one to put a name to it it, if it is heard regularly
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        Well.... Doesn't that depend on how it's programmed? Those electronic back seat drivers seem to annoy people sufficiently to choose to turn them off and take a chance on getting lost, and if the robot style is modelled on someone whose delivery or manner is already a source of irritation then not much progress has been made - or at least not for the listeners.
        I rather like Siri. When you get exasperated and use an expletive, he says, "I say, there's no need for that.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          The idea that the only alternative to the individual, 'Hey, it's ME', celebrity cult presenter is a robot could only be seriously contemplated by an imagination-free adult or an under-12 child. But you, of course, weren't be serious, were you, Gongers?

          As it happens the natural timbre and general pitch of the voice, possibly its accent, are quite enough to distinguish one faceless voice from another. And a little practice and a good ear will enable one to put a name to it it, if it is heard regularly
          I wasn't being 100% serious (or even Siri-ous for the Stockhausen/Apple enthusiasts)
          I don't think Tom Service does have a "hey it's ME" thing but there again I always have to remember that I am in a small minority.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30235

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            I don't think Tom Service does have a "hey it's ME" thing
            I was responding, of course (of course I was) to a general point about 'presenters' with a generalised comment about 'presenters'. I too can name presenters on Radio 3 who don't fit my 'Hey, it's me' formulation.

            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8778

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              ..... A faceless, unidentifiable voice that provides interesting, accurate information, in a listenable voice, is fine by me.

              Without a discernible sense of humour one supposes ........

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30235

                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                Without a discernible sense of humour one supposes ........
                Why?
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8778

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Why?

                  I may be wrong, but I feel you think it detracts from what you see as the requirements of the role .......

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30235

                    Originally posted by antongould View Post
                    I may be wrong, but I feel you think it detracts from what you see as the requirements of the role .......
                    On the contrary. My own feeling is that anyone who lacks a sense of humour lacks an essential part of human behaviour. I don't think the specific role of Radio 3 presenter requires one to be a comedian or to try to be funny; a sense of humour, I think, is most obviously demonstrated as a natural reaction to an immediate situation. It can result in a witty response - a recognition of the inherent humour in that situation. That is normal, isn't it?

                    I trust I have dispelled your sentiment that I consider it detracts from the role?
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • antongould
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8778

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      .......

                      I trust I have dispelled your sentiment that I consider it detracts from the role?
                      Completely

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                      • rauschwerk
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1480

                        A new low point was achieved today. We had the finale of the Waldstein sonata, and they chopped it just before the coda on a dominant seventh chord!.

                        I give up.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                          A new low point was achieved today. We had the finale of the Waldstein sonata, and they chopped it just before the coda on a dominant seventh chord!.
                          Did you have to rush to a piano to resolve it?

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            That bloody song at the end!
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • antongould
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8778

                              But you did get a chance to request the music you discovered in Ibiza on your hols .......

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Two wrongs don't make a right.

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