That work by Andors illborg, Liquid Marble, was rather good, I thought?
The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostAnd St Ian of Skelly is himself not immune from being just plain darned wrong; during yesterday's Lunchtime concert broadcast he referred to Lachenmann as being "associated with Musique concrete" - which is rather akin to describing the late Tony Warren as a writer of operas.
But you do wonder, though, don't you (as has been discussed more times than I can recall), who writes the scripts in which these gaffes are allowed to proliferate? There's also the issue of not only risking being "plain darned wrong" but also that of being disproportionate, rather as in the cases of someone describing Mozart as being "associated with" the viola on the grounds of being a gifted player the instrument or Ferneyhough as being "associated with" the English brass band tradition on the grounds of having been raised in such a musical environment in the English Midlands...
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Postduring yesterday's Lunchtime concert broadcast he referred to Lachenmann as being "associated with Musique concrete"
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostOf course Lachenmann is indeed associated with a concept he called "musique concrète instrumentale"[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostBut you do wonder, though, don't you (as has been discussed more times than I can recall), who writes the scripts in which these gaffes are allowed to proliferate?
There's also the issue of not only risking being "plain darned wrong" but also that of being disproportionate, rather as in the cases of someone describing Mozart as being "associated with" the viola on the grounds of being a gifted player the instrument or Ferneyhough as being "associated with" the English brass band tradition on the grounds of having been raised in such a musical environment in the English Midlands...[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostOh, yes - but there's a difference in degree between being "wrong" and being "just plain darned wrong". "The Eroica Symphony is by Neethoven" is a "slip" - "The Eroica Symphony is by Debussy" is "just plain darned wrong"!
Here I concede the point: she referred to the 4th movement of the C/capriccio, when it was the 4th movement of the vc (which happened to be a capriccio). As you were.
However, I did once hear a certain presenter back announce Beethoven's Kreisler violin sonata instead of his Kreutzer sonata. Whereas this might have had the alert listener pouncing on something for being "just plain darned wrong", if one had heard the initial announcement which explained that the violinist (I think Maxim Vengerov?) was playing a Strad which had belonged to Fritz Kreisler, one might well have been generous enough to relegate it to a 'slip' in the excitement of the moment? Perhaps?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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I suppose this could equally well have gone in the R3 presenter slot, .
Tom Service is for me an 'off-switch' character, but today I not only listened to, but enjoyed, a contribution from him this morning. He was reading a poem by Robert Service, a forbear, as part of the Canada 150 theme. It was a robust bit of writing and TS threw himself into it as if it really meant something to him and managed to avoid swallowing words so I could actually make out what the poet had written.
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I too was somewhat unbalanced by having Tom Service shouting at me early in the morning. He’s too loud and manic for me, not what I expect at that hour, especially after a week of the ever jolly and softly spoken Ian Skelly, the most acceptable of R3 presenters providing succour over the past week of Breakfast. Now it’s the weekend and we have another bout of music ‘live from Hool’ with Elizabeth Alker, one of the treacle toned northern presenters. The first hour was inexorable with hardly a sniff of classical music to be heard. Brian Eno and some heavy jazz drumming was a bit of a shock. But at least I kept awake. And I’m not sure that the history of the Humber bridge is of great interest to folks from the southern regions.
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Originally posted by DaisyDog View PostI too was somewhat unbalanced by having Tom Service shouting at me early in the morning. He’s too loud and manic for me, not what I expect at that hour, especially after a week of the ever jolly and softly spoken Ian Skelly, the most acceptable of R3 presenters providing succour over the past week of Breakfast. Now it’s the weekend and we have another bout of music ‘live from Hool’ with Elizabeth Alker, one of the treacle toned northern presenters. The first hour was inexorable with hardly a sniff of classical music to be heard. Brian Eno and some heavy jazz drumming was a bit of a shock. But at least I kept awake. And I’m not sure that the history of the Humber bridge is of great interest to folks from the southern regions.
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