The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[DaisyDog]

My update: I couldn't agree more. 'Breakfast' is still really annoying. It is mostly short excerpts only, no complete works, and too much inane blather and annoyingly repeated trailers.

[Richard Tarleton]

My view, as a birder who's done a spot of birdsong recording, is that this sort of thing - which I don't in any way wish to discourage - is best kept seasonal. There won't be any more birdsong to speak of (hasn't been for a month or more) until next March. Increasingly it's calls of the first few autumn migrants on mudflats and estuaries.... autumn and winter bird noises different to spring and summer ones....

The sounds of nature have context - habitat, space, ambience, season, etc. - it's not just disembodied sounds......

[Bryn]

My view, as a birder who's done a spot of birdsong recording, is that this sort of thing - which I don't in any way wish to discourage - is best kept seasonal. There won't be any more birdsong to speak of (hasn't been for a month or more) until next March. Increasingly it's calls of the first few autumn migrants on mudflats and estuaries.... autumn and winter bird noises different to spring and summer ones....

The sounds of nature have context - habitat, space, ambience, season, etc. - it's not just disembodied sounds......

Has it been made clear when these recordings were actually undertaken?

[Richard Tarleton]

I don't know. There's a limited window when they could have been recorded - I'm really referring to when people are listening to them

[DaisyDog]

What is it with Radio 3? They now seem to be obsessed with avian activities on a daily basis. This Monday morning there was a listener's tape of a song thrush. Allegedly. All I could hear was a pigeon.

[antongould]

What is it with Radio 3? They now seem to be obsessed with avian activities on a daily basis. This Monday morning there was a listener's tape of a song thrush. Allegedly. All I could hear was a pigeon.

I get the feeling that it is very popular with the interactive Breakfast listener ..... Clems this morning suggested the Gardens Musical Box and associated warblers would go on for the foreseeable future ..... In fact her and the Squire are endlessly stressing that it is my programme and that I have to get in touch. I'm sure ff will know whether or not this has the support of the latest Lord Stockton ....

[Serial_Apologist]

I get the feeling that it is very popular with the interactive Breakfast listener ..... Clems this morning suggested the Gardens Musical Box and associated warblers would go on for the foreseeable future ..... In fact her and the Squire are endlessly stressing that it is my programme and that I have to get in touch. I'm sure ff will know whether or not this has the support of the latest Lord Stockton ....

Stockton on Tease mode then, if it was the case!

[french frank]

I'm sure ff will know whether or not this has the support of the latest Lord Stockton ....

I would hazard a guess that this is part of Ld S's conceptualisation "Slow Radio".

[underthecountertenor]

I get the feeling that it is very popular with the interactive Breakfast listener ..... Clems this morning suggested the Gardens Musical Box and associated warblers would go on for the foreseeable future ..... In fact her and the Squire are endlessly stressing that it is my programme and that I have to get in touch. I'm sure ff will know whether or not this has the support of the latest Lord Stockton ....

Clems can't spend ALL her time stressing that it's your (and/or my) programme, because she has to mention the Proms and BBC New Generation Artists as often as possible. This morning she told us (just before the 8 o'clock news) that she was really looking forward to hearing FORMER BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST Tai Murray at THE PROMS later this week; and, just after the same news bulletin, asked us whether we caught Pavel Kolesnikov at THE PROMS yesterday: "I feel particularly proud of him as a BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST - didn't he DO US PROUD playing Tchaikovsky?'

Pass the bucket. Anyone would think that she was his mum.

[antongould]

Clems can't spend ALL her time stressing that it's your (and/or my) programme, because she has to mention the Proms and BBC New Generation Artists as often as possible. This morning she told us (just before the 8 o'clock news) that she was really looking forward to hearing FORMER BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST Tai Murray at THE PROMS later this week; and, just after the same news bulletin, asked us whether we caught Pavel Kolesnikov at THE PROMS yesterday: "I feel particularly proud of him as a BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST - didn't he DO US PROUD playing Tchaikovsky?'

Pass the bucket. Anyone would think that she was his mum.

Indeed, sadly, very true ......

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Clems can't spend ALL her time stressing that it's your (and/or my) programme, because she has to mention the Proms and BBC New Generation Artists as often as possible. This morning she told us (just before the 8 o'clock news) that she was really looking forward to hearing FORMER BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST Tai Murray at THE PROMS later this week; and, just after the same news bulletin, asked us whether we caught Pavel Kolesnikov at THE PROMS yesterday: "I feel particularly proud of him as a BBC NEW GENERATION ARTIST - didn't he DO US PROUD playing Tchaikovsky?'

Pass the bucket. Anyone would think that she was his mum.

It's quite sickening, and the Radio 3 Facebook page is as bad.

Try not to wince. It isn't even Tom Service talking fast over the music. It's a politically correct Lancastrian.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043g582

[Stanfordian]

It's quite sickening, and the Radio 3 Facebook page is as bad.

Try not to wince. It isn't even Tom Service talking fast over the music. It's a politically correct Lancastrian.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043g582

But it's all serving to broaden the appeal of the station. We must remember that! Please excuse me as I have to tweet the presenter that I'm sat here having digestive biscuit and a cup of tea…. Not!!!

[antongould]

But it's all serving to broaden the appeal of the station. We must remember that! Please excuse me as I have to tweet the presenter that I'm sat here having digestive biscuit and a cup of tea…. Not!!!

But Stan .... If we pick up on ff's Slow Radio - which I must have missed - the current Lord Stockton said this in the Telewag - so it must be true ........



"Alan Davey, controller of BBC Radio 3, said: “BBC Radio 3 wants to connect people with remarkable music and culture, and one way we can do that is to encourage people to discover a different pace and to reconnect with both music and the world around them in a distinctive and beautiful way.

“We know our audience has a love for the natural world and that birdsong is an enduring British interest, and we hope that these new birdsong-inspired features and performances, as part of Radio 3’s wider exploration of ‘slow radio’ will offer our audiences a real chance to reflect and catch-up.

“It’s a timeout in this busy, fast-paced world, from full length symphonies, operas and dramas through to soundscapes and spoken word that take you to another world.

“And if you have never heard a nightingale before this will bring magic into your life.”"

[Richard Tarleton]

"Alan Davey, controller of BBC Radio 3, said: “BBC Radio 3 wants to connect people with remarkable music and culture, and one way we can do that is to encourage people to discover a different pace and to reconnect with both music and the world around them in a distinctive and beautiful way.

“We know our audience has a love for the natural world and that birdsong is an enduring British interest, and we hope that these new birdsong-inspired features and performances, as part of Radio 3’s wider exploration of ‘slow radio’ will offer our audiences a real chance to reflect and catch-up.

“It’s a timeout in this busy, fast-paced world, from full length symphonies, operas and dramas through to soundscapes and spoken word that take you to another world.

“And if you have never heard a nightingale before this will bring magic into your life.”"

Interesting - I hadn't seen this before. Very much a city view of things. Song is only part of a bird's repertoire, and only of male birds at that ( - do they realise this in SW1A? ), and only of songbirds, and only for a quarter of the year - I do hope they keep it seasonal, to include the thrilling range of bird sounds you're likely to hear in late summer, autumn and winter, when there is no song (apart from robins, which hold territory all year round ) - I'm thinking of the calls of geese, ducks, wild swans, waders, flocks of wintering birds of all sorts....I wonder who is, erm, curating the recordings for them

[Bryn]

Interesting - I hadn't seen this before. Very much a city view of things. Song is only part of a bird's repertoire, and only of male birds at that ( - do they realise this in SW1A? ), and only of songbirds, and only for a quarter of the year - I do hope they keep it seasonal, to include the thrilling range of bird sounds you're likely to hear in late summer, autumn and winter, when there is no song (apart from robins, which hold territory all year round ) - I'm thinking of the calls of geese, ducks, wild swans, waders, flocks of wintering birds of all sorts....I wonder who is, erm, curating the recordings for them

Can I take it from this that you are not a regular listener to Radio 4's Tweet of the day? It's been going a few years now and moved on from just birds found in the UK to those from all over the world. They even have contributors to this forum there.