The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[cloughie]

Yes, I think it would be fair to say that!

I've never in fact witnessed Alexei Sayle, but the phrase 'the ongoing cultural war on critical thinking' rings very true to me. It's a good twin for Tusa's 'the flight from intelligence'. The BBC got lucky with that idea and it became very popular. That means it will go on for ever - like The Archers and Doctor Who. Hélas!

The Archers have gone on forever but Doctor Who was brought back after a number of years. I fear Strictly will not go on forever as they will run out of entrants. Too many seem to be BBC presenters and others who seem to cycle from one reality show to another.

[antongould]

The Archers have gone on forever but Doctor Who was brought back after a number of years. I fear Strictly will not go on forever as they will run out of entrants. Too many seem to be BBC presenters .....

.....and Rob Cowan isn't getting any younger Cloughers .....

[muzzer]

Slightly OT but I can't see a thread about the next Ten Tunes (I believe it's called), the trailer on Breakfast for which just featured La Klein referring to a DJ "spinning the decks".......praps she just does it to check we're listening...

[Old Grumpy]

Slightly OT but I can't see a thread about the next Ten Tunes (I believe it's called), the trailer on Breakfast for which just featured La Klein referring to a DJ "spinning the decks".......praps she just does it to check we're listening...

Ten Pieces, muzzer - and an admirable scheme IMV. Please feel free to continue the secondary discussions here if you feel so motivated.


OG

[Nick Armstrong]

...BBC presenters who seem to cycle from one reality show to another.

Whatever can you mean....?





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...I had no idea, after 20 years, that there was a speed limit for cycles in the Park !!! Not that I am in much danger of exceeding it... I think... (how fast is 5 mph...? )

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

(how fast is 5 mph...? )

MM = c56?

Quite slow - less than twice as fast as walking pace (a mile should take twelve minutes, if that's any help?)

(At a school where I used to work there was a 5mph speed limit sign at the bottom of a steep drive - anyone trying to go this slow in their cars would stall!)

[teamsaint]

k

(how fast is 5 mph...? )

8 KPH ?
4 irish MPH ?

As for Vine, I would have thrown the key away......

oh noes,have we wandered into " legalities " ?........

[Serial_Apologist]

Gosh I'll have to check for any signs when cycling through Hyde Park in future. Thank heavens that like Caliban I haven't been caught thus far! I wonder if that 5 mph limit covers the straight road parallel with Knightsbridge which has always provided such a quick link between the old Knightsbridge barracks and Park Lane.

[Serial_Apologist]

k



8 KPH ?
4 irish MPH ?

As for Vine, I would have thrown the key away......

oh noes,have we wandered into " legalities " ?........

No - pun territory: de Vine justice.

[vinteuil]

the straight road parallel with Knightsbridge which has always provided such a quick link between the old Knightsbridge barracks and Park Lane.

... the South Carriage Road, parallel with and between Knightsbridge and Rotten Row.

[Serial_Apologist]

... the South Carriage Road, parallel with and between Knightsbridge and Rotten Row.

Thanks vints - that is indeed the one. Google Street View used to offer close up details asuch as signposts and house numbers, though that changed in the last visual shake-up, but I might check later on to see if there are any visible sings of cycling speed limits.

[ahinton]

I'm not sure what a lot of this means (starting with the phrase 'could care less'), but there seems to be quite a lot of de haut en bas prejudice wrapped up in it.

As to Strictly Ballroom, it was a film that was highly acclaimed at the time, by critics as well as public. It's 23 years old now, and I suppose it may have aged badly (I've not re-watched it for some years), but at the time it was seen as something fresh, funny and original, and even surprising given its Australian provenance. I'm surprised that you found it tedious, but each to their own.

I didn't mean to suggest that the move was tedious but that I find the SCD programme to be so; sorry if was insufficiently clear on that!

I'd agree with you that Come Dancing was tedious, though occasionally unintentionally comic. But there my agreement with you ends. The amalgamation of the two was, in my view, inspired, and in the best traditions of BBC innovation to Reithian ends. What they did was take a formula which was of genuine interest only to committed ballroom dancers, throw celebs, and pizazz, into the mix, and come up with an inspired title. The result caught the public's attention to an unexpected degree, and (apart from being good clean family Saturday night fun in keeping with TV tradition) it has arguably awakened an interest in a pastime/sport/discipline/what-you-will which is sociable and healthy.

I should add that I have watched a few episodes in past series (with family or friends) and found them quite diverting - certainly not tedious (by contrast with the occasion one Christmas when I was forced to watch Mamma Mia and was inwardly weeping with boredom almost from the start) - but I am by no means an addict. Ars longa, vita brevis and all that: it's pretty low down on my list of priorities and I have no plans to watch this series. But I have to take issue with your damning, and apparently prejudiced, verdict on both this and Strictly Ballroom.

As above, my damning, such as it is - which I stress is in any case merely a personal opinion - does not apply to the movie!

[Nick Armstrong]

... the South Carriage Road, parallel with and between Knightsbridge and Rotten Row.

Thanks vints - that is indeed the one.

Although of course Mr Vine was 'done' not on that road, but on the cycle path running alongside Rotten Row, as you can see in the video in the above-linked Telegraph article; and in this pic (South Carriage Drive slightly visible on the right hand side running along in front of the quaintly named 'Decimus Burton's Ionic Screen' at Hyde Park Corner next to the Duke of Wellington's gaff):



I'm sure that it's on this cycle lane that the speed limit applies - South Carriage Drive is a normal bit of urban road with a 30mph limit, I think.

[french frank]

any visible sings

or audible?

[vinteuil]

the quaintly named 'Decimus Burton's Ionic Screen' at Hyde Park Corner next to the Duke of Wellington's gaff):

... I'm a big fan of Decimus Burton. He did the Hyde Park Screen in his twenties - just before his designing of the Athenaeum : perhaps his greatest work is the Palm House at Kew

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimus_Burton