The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

CB-H claims that she thought it wasn't suitable, but thousands of listeners told her it was.

IIRC, she had said that earlier in the programme a listener had tweexted in to suggest Murder Cross the Ferry as a suggestion for the "Rivers" theme - to which she had responded that she didn't think it quite suitable for R3 - to which these thousands (?!) of listeners had tweexted back to demand not merely Gerry, but his cohorts of pace manufacturers as well should be played. This gave her great delight as she is a "fan" - and so she played it, and I switched off.

Not quite how Alpie described it. But the fact remains - Chris Evans ( a great fan of the first movement of the "Moonlight" Sonata, I don't doubt) has yet to give in to the pressure of thousands of R2 listeners to play that track - sorry, "song" - as part of R2's "Nighty-Night" theme.

[ahinton]

IIRC, she had said that earlier in the programme a listener had tweexted in to suggest Murder Cross the Ferry as a suggestion for the "Rivers" theme - to which she had responded that she didn't think it quite suitable for R3 - to which these thousands (?!) of listeners had tweexted back to demand not merely Gerry, but his cohorts of pace manufacturers as well should be played. This gave her great delight as she is a "fan" - and so she played it, and I switched off.

Not quite how Alpie described it. But the fact remains - Chris Evans ( a great fan of the first movement of the "Moonlight" Sonata, I don't doubt) has yet to give in to the pressure of thousands of R2 listeners to play that track - sorry, "song" - as part of R2's "Nighty-Night" theme.

Isn't CB-H like GBH only with a different note at the beginning?

If only listeners so disposed would indeed "tweext"; at least it might save half of the time currently wasted on such things.

I'd thought that Pacemakers were those who taught a certain pianist but I wouldn't "tweext" CB-H to say so.

What is this "Rivers" theme to which you refer? Anything to do with Dillon's Nine of the same?

Sorry to display so much ignorance in a single post, even if not quite enough to risk getting an invitation to present aural breakfast.

[Stanfordian]

Isn't CB-H like GBH only with a different note at the beginning?

If only listeners so disposed would indeed "tweext"; at least it might save half of the time currently wasted on such things.

I'd thought that Pacemakers were those who taught a certain pianist but I wouldn't "tweext" CB-H to say so.

What is this "Rivers" theme to which you refer? Anything to do with Dillon's Nine of the same?

Sorry to display so much ignorance in a single post, even if not quite enough to risk getting an invitation to present aural breakfast.

Hiya Hintoners,

'GBH' for CB-H I love it!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Isn't CB-H like GBH only with a different note at the beginning?

Make a good fugue subject, don't you think?

If only listeners so disposed would indeed "tweext"; at least it might save half of the time currently wasted on such things.

Yes - a pity the tens of thousands requesting that presenters stop whittering away and JUST PLAY THE MUSIC!!!

I'd thought that Pacemakers were those who taught a certain pianist but I wouldn't "tweext" CB-H to say so.

Sadly, no: it refers to a once-popular beat combo, some of whom nowadays require said equipment.

What is this "Rivers" theme to which you refer? Anything to do with Dillon's Nine of the same?

In one of those parallel universes, perhaps. Instead, it is a monthly (I believe) "topic" with reference to which the listeners are encouraged to send their suggestions for pieces. So, this month, suggestions for Musical works associated with the theme of "Rivers" are being solicited. After Vltava and Danube, the barrel rapidly ran short of apples. Core repertoire, I suppose.

[ahinton]

Make a good fugue subject, don't you think?

C - B flat - B natural G - B flat B natural? Hmmm. Not especially tempting, methinks - but then I reckon that I've done with them thar fugues some time ago when, having written a fugal exposition as the penultimate section of my Szymanowski-Etiud (for 18 wind instruments), I resolved never to go near a fugue again which, given that this one is a simultaneous triple fugue, i.e. in nine voices (not rivers!) with three subjects whose entries are subject 1, subject 2, subject 3 followed by ditto and then ditto again, is probably quite understandable; that said, were, C-Bflat-B natural ever to introduce a performance of it in "her" programme, she'd probably not be content with merely observing that it's enough to make anyone choke on their Weetabixes so would invite "tweexts" from listeners confirming her suspicion...

Yes - a pity the tens of thousands requesting that presenters stop whittering away and JUST PLAY THE MUSIC!!!

I imagine that most of us would not seek to advocate wall-to-wall music with no speech at all on R3, but it's what's said, how much talk there is and how helpful and relevant it is to said music that's all that counts - or should be...

Sadly, no: it refers to a once-popular beat combo, some of whom nowadays require said equipment.

Oh, I see - so no question of "blessèd are the Pacemakers, for they shall sonically represent photography's history", then...

In one of those parallel universes, perhaps. Instead, it is a monthly (I believe) "topic" with reference to which the listeners are encouraged to send their suggestions for pieces. So, this month, suggestions for Musical works associated with the theme of "Rivers" are being solicited. After Vltava and Danube, the barrel rapidly ran short of apples. Core repertoire, I suppose.

Sounds like rotten apples to me and should accordingly be replaced by the pips, however unreliable they may be; at least they'd be more ap-peel-ing. Still, once the BBC has finally bitten the dust, I suppose that the only river so represented will be the Amazon. In the meantime, I suppose that CB-H and her chattering-classlessness colleagues must be inundated with requests for Ornstein's Impressions de la Tamise, Op 13 No. 1 (see - or rather listen to - http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dw...1_GBAJY0232023) and Howells' Missa Sabrinensis (one of his best works, I think). Not. Nile obstat (sorry, jean!). All I can add about the inSeine way in which things now stand is to ask Wye and whether some of it sound better in Monnow (and CB-H's uncommentaries in no channel at all).

[Serial_Apologist]

You've missed out the seedy Rom!

[ahinton]

You've missed out the seedy Rom!

Only because it's yet to be reviewed on Andrew McGregor's Seedy Revue! (which excellent stalwart of R3 I perhaps oughtn't even to mention in the company of le petit déjeuner du temps au colline du Bourton)...

[french frank]

It's Radio 3's answer to the BBC Trust's request that the Breakfast programme should be more distinctive (following their content analysis comparison with Classic FM).

The ultimate triumph - Breakfast is becoming progressively worse and worse than Classic FM (which would never play Gerry and the Pacemakers).

[ahinton]

It's Radio 3's answer to the BBC Trust's request that the Breakfast programme should be more distinctive (following their content analysis comparison with Classic FM).

The ultimate triumph - Breakfast is becoming progressively worse and worse than Classic FM.

Ah, well they've presumably got their come-uppance as well as their avowedly desired result all in one go, then, for the programme, whatever else it may or may not be, is at the very least "distinctive"; after all, in its absence, how else would R3 listeners be educated, informed and entertained about others of its listeners whom they'll never otherwise encounter as to the kind of moonlight beneath which they first heard Beethoven's piano sonata Quasi una fantasia, Op. 27, No. 2 or what they'd eaten that gave rise to a nasty bout of Medtner's Night Wind...

[antongould]

It's Radio 3's answer to the BBC Trust's request that the Breakfast programme should be more distinctive (following their content analysis comparison with Classic FM).

The ultimate triumph - Breakfast is becoming progressively worse and worse than Classic FM (which would never play Gerry and the Pacemakers).

Do you know this for a fact? When I listened to Classic FM Breakfast for half an hour - all I could endure - I got the impression any music was possible as was any advert ......

[french frank]

Do you know this for a fact? When I listened to Classic FM Breakfast for half an hour - all I could endure - I got the impression any music was possible as was any advert ......

You mean, Radio 3 wasn't being distinctive after all? And never mind Radio 1, apparently it was last played on Radio 2 - Pick of the Pops - in June this year. Which would make Breakfast a cross between Radio 2 and Classic FM. QED.

[ahinton]

You mean, Radio 3 wasn't being distinctive after all? And never mind Radio 1, apparently it was last played on Radio 2 - Pick of the Pops - in June this year. Which would make Breakfast a cross between Radio 2 and Classic FM. QED.

Better QED than CB-H, I submit...

What might you think of the idea of swapping Clem and Suzy and Mel & Sue around for a series so that the former could bake off on telly while the latter chatter and invite endless tweexts about the confections as they gorge them for Breakfast? would you see that as possibly commensurate with the Trust's aspirations for the BBC of the future?

OK, so I probably deserve to be demoted to the soggy bottom of the class for even thinking up such a half-baked idea, but one cannot tell for certain whether or not it might work (or be overworked) until it's been - er - proven.

Do(ug)h!...

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

IIRC, she had said that earlier in the programme a listener had tweexted in to suggest Murder Cross the Ferry as a suggestion for the "Rivers" theme - to which she had responded that she didn't think it quite suitable for R3 - to which these thousands (?!) of listeners had tweexted back to demand not merely Gerry, but his cohorts of pace manufacturers as well should be played. This gave her great delight as she is a "fan" - and so she played it, and I switched off.

Not quite how Alpie described it. But the fact remains - Chris Evans ( a great fan of the first movement of the "Moonlight" Sonata, I don't doubt) has yet to give in to the pressure of thousands of R2 listeners to play that track - sorry, "song" - as part of R2's "Nighty-Night" theme.

"Thousands of listeners", but she could only name three. I often wonder whether these tweets/texts are often no more than spin, like the DWP's examples of false benefit claims.

[ahinton]

"Thousands of listeners", but she could only name three. I often wonder whether these tweets/texts are often no more than spin, like the DWP's examples of false benefit claims.

Who can say? Clearly, there would have been no time to name more than a handful of listeners. I have to admit that I've never encountered this aspect of The Eternal Textfast / R3 Tweet of the Day being compared to a government department's allegations in respect of false state benefit claims, but it could be a thought-provoking one nevertheless; I also hadn't thought that CB-H might stand for Claim Benefits Here...

[french frank]

Better QED than CB-H, I submit...

What might you think of the idea of swapping Clem and Suzy and Mel & Sue around for a series so that the former could bake off on telly while the latter chatter and invite endless tweexts about the confections as they gorge them for Breakfast? would you see that as possibly commensurate with the Trust's aspirations for the BBC of the future?

OK, so I probably deserve to be demoted to the soggy bottom of the class for even thinking up such a half-baked idea, but one cannot tell for certain whether or not it might work (or be overworked) until it's been - er - proven.

Do(ug)h!...

Sorry, ah - I'm not rising to that one …

I never believe the 'floods' 'deluge' 'hundreds' 'thousands' are more than figures of speech…