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The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by Velvet Munchkin View PostThank you for my welcome. I increasingly resort to streaming Through the Night or anything presented by Donald Macleod rather than have that vacuous voice (CBH) penetrate the inner ear at the start of the day. I can’t pin-point just why she’s so utterly nauseous. Such a confected, pasteurised delivery and hard to listen to because she’s so often emoting. Those little inflexions of ‘feeling’ in her sentences. (Petroc whats-his-face isn’t a great deal better.) If I do mistakenly stray onto CBH-PT ‘Breakfast' I always experience a prompter and fuller-than-normal early-am bowel movement. The point, for me, there’s nowhere else to go, radio-wise.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostWhere is radio64 when clemmers needs him????
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostUntil that time, may I ask hosts, administrators and long standing members if personal attacka on named presenters have been discouraged? If so, then it's a shame that a new contributor should be encouraged to indulge in the same distasteful comment that we all know and hate so well, without a word of criticism from those who know better.
Couldn't agree more.......
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostUntil that time, may I ask hosts, administrators and long standing members if personal attacka on named presenters have been discouraged? If so, then it's a shame that a new contributor should be encouraged to indulge in the same distasteful comment that we all know and hate so well, without a word of criticism from those who know better.
We believe that in some cases presenters have been chosen and their style of presentation has been dictated/encouraged in line with a Radio 3 management policy. We disagree with that policy (insofar as the aim to include one set of listeners excludes another set) and would like to see it buried as soon as possible.
It is a moot point whether remaining polite, reasoned and constructive is an effective way of campaigning … SadlyIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostIt is discouraged by the forum administration, not least because it is a fixed policy of Friends of Radio 3 not to attack individuals (though be it noted that the forum and FoR3 are not one and the same). The adminstration tries to keep order but forum members do not toe a 'party line'. On personal attacks on presenters, a degree of forum self-regulation is much appreciated.
We believe that in some cases presenters have been chosen and their style of presentation has been dictated/encouraged in line with a Radio 3 management policy. We disagree with that policy (insofar as the aim to include one set of listeners excludes another set) and would like to see it buried as soon as possible.
It is a moot point whether remaining polite, reasoned and constructive is an effective way of campaigning … Sadly
With presenters being such an integral part of BBC Radio 3 of course board members should be allowed to state their opinion and criticise if they see fit as long as it is not libellous and hopefully in reasonably good taste. Of course there will be some people who are uncomfortable with what others write but otherwise a worrying censorship comes into place which is I believe even worse for the integrity of the site.Last edited by Stanfordian; 05-05-15, 15:00.
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Agreed, Stanfordian. I contribute to one or two other forums, non-music related, and the general tenor of the posts, and the language used, makes me cringe. I abhor any nastiness of any description, but I will defend the right of all of us to make constructive comment, and if that involves naming names, then so be it. My view is that some presenters sit up and beg for it, and at times, actively encourage it by their words and deeds.Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan
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Richard Tarleton
It's in a way unfortunate that the new controller singled out said named presenter for lavish praise recently, which rather boxes him in and polarises the situation. We don't know what is said behind the scenes, but perhaps greater distinction needs to be made between what we know presenters are capable of (better things) and what they're expected to do, or have been expected to do, on Breakfast.
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostIt's in a way unfortunate that the new controller singled out said named presenter for lavish praise recently, which rather boxes him in and polarises the situation. We don't know what is said behind the scenes, but perhaps greater distinction needs to be made between what we know presenters are capable of (better things) and what they're expected to do, or have been expected to do, on Breakfast.
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostIt's in a way unfortunate that the new controller singled out said named presenter for lavish praise recently, which rather boxes him in and polarises the situation. We don't know what is said behind the scenes, but perhaps greater distinction needs to be made between what we know presenters are capable of (better things) and what they're expected to do, or have been expected to do, on Breakfast.
My feeling about her comments was that they showed either singular obtuseness; or, more likely, a cynical reliance on the fact that she could make whatever claims she liked in the full knowledge that the interviewer would be ill-equipped to bother her with difficult questions.
We don't have the advantages of a national newspaper to interview us (nor an agent to arrange publicity and make sure the journalist is aware of every proof of our astounding brilliance).Last edited by french frank; 05-05-15, 16:47.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Richard Tarleton
I can't remember where I saw it possibly the S Times which doesn't help much
But I agree with your comments, ff.
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