The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

"beg" is spelt "B-E-G"

[french frank]

"beg" is spelt "B-E-G"

That saves me censoring it :buggrin:

The reason I mentioned the research in my previous post is that clamouring to send in texts, tweets and emails in a music programme seems to me (so, is my opinion!) childish. One of the points made in the paper was that the children seemed to regard the audience members and what they were doing as the main fascination. The play acted as a bit of a distraction ... (or, stop the music - we want to chat).

[Old Grumpy]

I'm sure there was something on the Breakfast BBC News this morning about a guy getting onto the stage somewhere and taking a selfie of himself with the orchestra (and presumably auditorium) in the background. Beggared if I can find it ont' internet though.

OG

[mercia]

I'm sure there was something on the Breakfast BBC News this morning about a guy getting onto the stage somewhere and taking a selfie of himself with the orchestra (and presumably auditorium) in the background. Beggared if I can find it ont' internet though.

OG

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/mar/05/mid-concert-selfie-stage-invasions-hasnt-dvorak-suffered-enough-already

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/05/orchestra-age-of-enlightenment-adam-fischer-dvorak-brahms-selfie

[bb]

If you're asking me something more in line with Morning on 3. Maybe av. 4-6 pieces per hour. No tweets &c. The news on the hour (I could just about take it on the half hour - but definitely not every 15 minutes; and no newspaper headlines). Trails only just before the news (if hourly), but best if just given by the announcer. I would personally prefer each programme to be hand-crafted with no clashes, like Eric Coates, Scott Joplin, John Williams tossed in between Bach, Monteverdi &c. No single movements. Short, intelligent introductions to the music.

Thank you. We shall see what we can do.

[french frank]

Thank you. We shall see what we can do.

Have you been having a word already, bb? I will need to listen to a few complete programmes but I think I perceive some 'seriousness' creeping in here and there. It sounds like your influence, right enough ... :-)

[Old Grumpy]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...enough-already
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-brahms-selfie

Thanks, mercia - that was it! Must have been in What the papers say (my italics) rather than the news...



... ah, it's all coming back now... Rubens... spit bucket and all that.

OG

[antongould]

I'm sure there was something on the Breakfast BBC News this morning about a guy getting onto the stage somewhere and taking a selfie of himself with the orchestra (and presumably auditorium) in the background. Beggared if I can find it ont' internet though.

OG

Teamsaint was there .......

[teamsaint]

Teamsaint was there .......

Yeah, but this bloke was quite tall, guv, so couldnt have been me.....whistle:


Check out the latest concert thread,for press links.The bloke from the guardian saw it all, though he wasnt paying attention during the Brahms.

[french frank]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...enough-already
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-brahms-selfie

Hmmm: "narcissists".

"The world is overrun with self-absorbed imbeciles with more sense of entitlement than sense who think it is their right to interpose themselves between spectators and the music or art"

So, getting back to the 'interactive' breakfast show ...

[muzzer]

CBH just dispatched the headlines on the quarter hour with words to the effect "and the papers this morning are unsurprisingly full of george osborne's budget, but we won't dwell on that, here's some great piano-playing by...."

Bravo. More please.

[Stanfordian]

Music played backwards, music slowed and down and speeded up, two pieces of music played together. It's getting like a children's programme.

[AndyJW]

CBH just dispatched the headlines on the quarter hour with words to the effect "and the papers this morning are unsurprisingly full of george osborne's budget, but we won't dwell on that, here's some great piano-playing by...."

Bravo. More please.

CBH also said a world class pianist (can't remember the name now) was "on keys" !!!!

[doversoul1]

Music played backwards, music slowed and down and speeded up, two pieces of music played together. It's getting like Blue Peter!

When I was watching Blue Peter (as a parent), the programme took its audience very seriously. That is why many people remember it with affection. If only…

[ed.] Stanfordian

[french frank]

As far as I've been able to establish, Essential Classics draws in large audiences - who presumably are unaware that they are being treated like 8-year-olds. And 8-year-olds they will remain.

If Roger Wright's apparent strategy to turn Radio 3 into music/art 'for everyone' finally succeeds, it will no longer have a reason to exist. Why should the BBC spend so much of their, allegedly, small income on supporting Radio 3 when Classic FM does the job just as well - and in some cases better?

"What everyone should be worrying about, however, is the loss of that old drip-feed of expert, uncondescending talk about music with which the BBC created and educated an audience in the first place. Will an informed audience even exist by 2030?" Well, no - but never mind, eh.