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The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View PostAh, now we know where the production staff at Breakfast get their info...
It's what's called 'contextualisation'.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostNot necessarily: I believe Classic FM also refers to it as the 'Elvira Madigan'.
It's what's called 'contextualisation'.
Since the film is now 44 years old and fallen into relative obscurity I'm not sure how many of the "new" band of listeners would make the contextual connection.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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longinus
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the other (another) faux pas this morning - apparently, the reason Aeneas abandons Dido is to go off and fight the Trojan War. Now I didn't know that. Perhaps I misunderstood.
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Originally posted by longinus View PostPerhaps I misunderstood.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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longinus
Yes, I know. The "perhaps I misunderstood" was sarcastic (is there a smiley for sarcasm?). What really hacks me off is that SM-P clearly doesn't know the opera - so why does she feel competent to tell us about the plot? It's no good presenters having a Masters in music if they are too sloppy to check their scripts. These people are like teachers - the very least one can expect is that they get the facts right.
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Well, again, I'd have to say that at root (sorry, Cav) it's the station policy that's at fault.
In their submission to the Trust's review, the ISM particularly said there should be better research:
"[The] knowledge and experience [of BBC staff] should be utilised to increase the quality of information within Radio 3 broadcasts."
"A greater level of research is required for presenters with staff support and an increased knowledge of pieces being played; and whilst listener engagement is welcome, the use of listeners to send in 'information about the music that the presenter should know' is not."
It's not much good having presenters writing their own scripts if they're going to rely for information on Wikipedia, CD liner notes or concert programmes notes (Ghost Trio, anyone?) without it being rigorously checked.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Pity they don't advertise for someone to do the research for them, I'm urgently seeking employment in the London area at the moment and I quite sure I could do a better job, I know I make the odd error here and there on these boards, but if I was researching for broadcast and the website, then I'd be proud to make sure I was as 100% accurate as I could possibly be.
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to play devil's advocate for a moment, if one looks at, for instance, the website Breakfast playlists, there's a heck of a lot of information to get right - dates of composers, lots of foreign names, all those CD & track numbers, umlauts etc. - if it's just one person doing it, it's quite an undertaking .................?
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Possibly quite an undertaking but if you have good musical knowledge then I think relatively straightforward. It takes me for example about an hour minutes to transfer the information I need for each day to my spreadsheet for playlist monitoring, taking note of the seemingly continual stream of errors!
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Paul Sherratt
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sc, why don't you create a corrected replica of the R3 schedules which could be set up as a link to the forum and which could be used more reliably by people here? OK, unpaid work and a bit tiresome but it would demonstrate to the BBC that you could do the job better than it is being done at present. It wouldn't of course get rid of errors by presenters when they introduce the works, but it'd be a start.
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Earworms, earworms, earworms, earworms, earworms, earworms........
What an utterly pointless exercise.
One might as well just read out a list of fictitious listeners and any combination of musical themes and add the two together.
Oh, what's that you say? They did.
Tomorrow: what music do you enjoy while on the lavvy.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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