The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Nick Armstrong]

Quatuor Ébène are new to me

You shouldn’t hesitate to acquire their recording of the Fauré, Ravel & Debussy quartets

[muzzer]

Clearly the form of address is designed to denote the medical authority required to curate a programme of such lofty, therapeutic ambition!

I think you’ll find she retrained after leaving newsreading (and possibly forced out by bbc age discrim) but that is entirely off the top of my head. Bravo for her, if not for the style required of her by this show. Another case in point is that SMP when on Night Tracks sounds like she’s delivering your own personal seance, in contrast to the cheery good morning of Breakfast. I have no real issue with this strand. There is space for an intelligently programmed stream. But I don’t need it to sound like a therapy app.

There’s no pleasing everyone is there?

[LMcD]

[QUOTE=AuntDaisy;n1323945]
Quatuor Ébène are new to me

When our local library sold off its CDs, I bought (for the princely sum of £1) their excellent recording for Warner Classics of the Debussy, Fauré and Ravel quartets.

[AuntDaisy]

That wasn't an opinion: it was a statement of fact. I do not listen to Radio 3 at all except possibly one special programme, probably flagged up here. Can't remember when this last happened. My Breakfast this morning was special for Sunday: saucisson sec, Comté cheese, baby gherkins, cherry tomatoes, and warm baguette. Then more warm baguette with orange marmalade. And two cups of black coffee. All washed down with the Quatuor Ébène - Beethoven's op 131. Breakfast took a bit longer to eat than the quartet lasted, so about 40 mins.

The building problems continue (still no heating in kitchen, an exploding convector heater yesterday which blew the entire power system throughout the house including the boiler upstairs so no central heating, a neighbour's amateur panto in the evening (with all the loud boos, hisses, cheers, Look Behind Yous, Oh, No I Didn'ts, Oh Yes You Dids) and this morning the signs of a large leak in the kitchen plumbing - now boxed-in and plastered over, so delaying the decorating until after Christmas.

The good news was that when I got back from the panto I was able to check that the power switch had tripped and the power was swiftly restored. Also, op 131 has now taken over from 132 as my favourite of the late quartets. After the slower reflective sections it's mainly sunny, controlled exuberance. Food and music like this is what Breakfast should be about. Not an opinion about anything , merely the expression of a personal preference. Other preferences widely available on all good - and bad - radio stations.

Quatuor Ébène are new to me (Lindsays & Alban Berg here). I see they've got a performance on YouTube which I listened to earlier & enjoyed (esp. ~32:20 in).

Sorry to hear about yet more Kitchen problems - the exploding heater sounds nasty. Fingers crossed.

Can't compete with your haute cuisine, but I've just finished a Ginger & Lemon cake (sans creamy filling) & a veg. curry for later (while listening to Donald M & The Chapel Royal.)

[french frank]

Quatuor Ebene should be a red wine really .

That's fine: I shall listen again this evening. What are you cooking now? (yes, of course I'm preparing it now - no need for lunch today) to be further informed of my amusing little dish. I shall finish off the Malbec wi'it.

[Ein Heldenleben]

That wasn't an opinion: it was a statement of fact. I do not listen to Radio 3 at all except possibly one special programme, probably flagged up here. Can't remember when this last happened. My Breakfast this morning was special for Sunday: saucisson sec, Comté cheese, baby gherkins, cherry tomatoes, and warm baguette. Then more warm baguette with orange marmalade. And two cups of black coffee. All washed down with the Quatuor Ébène - Beethoven's op 131. Breakfast took a bit longer to eat than the quartet lasted, so about 40 mins.

The building problems continue (still no heating in kitchen, an exploding convector heater yesterday which blew the entire power system throughout the house including the boiler upstairs so no central heating, a neighbour's amateur panto in the evening (with all the loud boos, hisses, cheers, Look Behind Yous, Oh, No I Didn'ts, Oh Yes You Dids) and this morning the signs of a large leak in the kitchen plumbing - now boxed-in and plastered over, so delaying the decorating until after Christmas.

The good news was that when I got back from the panto I was able to check that the power switch had tripped and the power was swiftly restored. Also, op 131 has now taken over from 132 as my favourite of the late quartets. After the slower reflective sections it's mainly sunny, controlled exuberance. Food and music like this is what Breakfast should be about. Not an opinion about anything , merely the expression of a personal preference. Other preferences widely available on all good - and bad - radio stations.

Quatuor Ebene should be a red wine really .

[french frank]

Does that mean you're really a secret R3 day-time & Jools Holland fan?

That wasn't an opinion: it was a statement of fact. I do not listen to Radio 3 at all except possibly one special programme, probably flagged up here. Can't remember when this last happened. My Breakfast this morning was special for Sunday: saucisson sec, Comté cheese, baby gherkins, cherry tomatoes, and warm baguette. Then more warm baguette with orange marmalade. And two cups of black coffee. All washed down with the Quatuor Ébène - Beethoven's op 131. Breakfast took a bit longer to eat than the quartet lasted, so about 40 mins.

The building problems continue (still no heating in kitchen, an exploding convector heater yesterday which blew the entire power system throughout the house including the boiler upstairs so no central heating, a neighbour's amateur panto in the evening (with all the loud boos, hisses, cheers, Look Behind Yous, Oh, No I Didn'ts, Oh Yes You Dids) and this morning the signs of a large leak in the kitchen plumbing - now boxed-in and plastered over, so delaying the decorating until after Christmas.

The good news was that when I got back from the panto I was able to check that the power switch had tripped and the power was swiftly restored. Also, op 131 has now taken over from 132 as my favourite of the late quartets. After the slower reflective sections it's mainly sunny, controlled exuberance. Food and music like this is what Breakfast should be about. Not an opinion about anything , merely the expression of a personal preference. Other preferences widely available on all good - and bad - radio stations.

[LMcD]

Indeed it is!
Though personally I'd still prefer no stop after Rev (and I'm not sure that I've seen Revd, which to me seems a contrivance simply to avoid the full stop if you obey the abbreviation/contraction (leaving letters out) rule).
But my training was at the Institute of Physics Publishing offices (in Bristol), and I don't recall many reverends writing and submitting their learned articles to us.

Adam Smallbone (played by the wonderful Tom Hollander) was 'Rev' without a stop.

[Pulcinella]

Surely the text would be littered with periods.

Indeed it is.
I suppose we'll have Donald J. Trump for a four-year period, rather than him coming to a full stop in the middle.

[Old Grumpy]

And is one reason I find American newspaper articles (as an example) so hard to read. Their conventions (utterly bizarre when it comes to punctuation associated with quotation marks) litter the text with full stops, which breaks it up in such a way that you often can't immediately tell which one signifies the end of the sentence.

Surely the text would be littered with periods.

[AuntDaisy]

Careful now! You can rely utterly on all opinions expressed on these boards except mine, which can be so dubious that - at least some of the time - I doubt them myself.

Does that mean you're really a secret R3 day-time & Jools Holland fan?

[vinteuil]

The rule I learned - though I forget from which magisterial publication, probably the Author's and Editor's Dictionary - is that if the 'abbreviation' includes the last letter of the full original, no full stop should be used - hence Dr for Doctor but Rev. for Reverend.

... my old copy of Hart's Rules for Compositors and Readers at the University Press Oxford, page 2, agrees with this for Dr Revd Mr Mrs Mme Mlle St (saint) - but expects full points for Bt. (baronet) Kt. (knight) Ltd. (limited) and St. (street).





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[french frank]

Thanks French Frank & Pulcinella - I live & learn.

Careful now! You can rely utterly on all opinions expressed on these boards except mine, which can be so dubious that - at least some of the time - I doubt them myself.

[Historian]

... ʃurely this ʃhould be "another ʃet of ʃad ʃteps away from the eighteenth century" - or "another Set of ʃad Steps away from the eighteenth Century"

Mea Culpa.

[vinteuil]

... for me it's another set of sad steps away from the eighteenth century, so I will continue to add stops (and Capitals) as I wish.

... ʃurely this ʃhould be "another ʃet of ʃad ʃteps away from the eighteenth century" - or "another Set of ʃad Steps away from the eighteenth Century"