The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[french frank]

Zucchers is the Bill Frindall of the forum ...

[teamsaint]

Zucchers is the Bill Frindall of the forum ...

well no real surprise at his contribution then, as we are a sub set of R4........

[Suffolkcoastal]

Zucchers is RW's special agent sent in to try and ruffle the feathers of for3 members when the Dear Leader feels a little uncomfortable. I thought I was the Bill Frindall of the forum , admittedly though I can't be called the 'Bearded Wonder' as I'm generally clean shaven and don't quite have the late BF command of figures.

[french frank]

Zucchers is RW's special agent sent in to try and ruffle the feathers of for3 members when the Dear Leader feels a little uncomfortable. I thought I was the Bill Frindall of the forum , admittedly though I can't be called the 'Bearded Wonder' as I'm generally clean shaven and don't quite have the late BF command of figures.

I thought of making you joint Bill Frindalls, sc, but decided the dry stats were probably Zucchini's forte. Your tables have a degree of complication that wouldn't do for TMS but are fine for us. And Zucchini is more likely to be a millionaire

[Bryn]

Just listened to the start of this morning's Breakfast via the iPlayer. 56 seconds in, CB-H announces a later broadcast of "Monteverdi's Pee into the Western Wind", a work I am not as yet familiar with. I will have to trawl trough the programme to find it.

[Ah, I did not have to listen too long. Turned out to be Zefiro torna, but why the strange announcement? A reference to our attempts to get an improved Breakfast perhaps?]

[Flosshilde]

There. In medieval France, 14 was about the age when girls gave up their diminutive names to assume the grown-up form: Jeannette became Jeanne, Peronnelle became Peronne. I always think it should be the time when they have their hair cut, though I do realise that long tresses do, allegedly, make them lusciously attractive to men. Happy to make 21 the 'cut-off' point, though

Rather more recently when a girl become a (young) woman & participated in adult society she 'put her hair up'.

[Domeyhead]

Just listened to the start of this morning's Breakfast via the iPlayer. 56 seconds in, CB-H announces a later broadcast of "Monteverdi's Pee into the Western Wind", a work I am not as yet familiar with. I will have to trawl trough the programme to find it.

[Ah, I did not have to listen too long. Turned out to be Zefiro torna, but why the strange announcement? A reference to our attempts to get an improved Breakfast perhaps?]

Perhaps it was a musical interpretation of Shelley's Paean to a Bucket.....

[french frank]

Rather more recently when a girl become a (young) woman & participated in adult society she 'put her hair up'.

I'd buy that. Especially for an actress who might be playing Ophelia next week (considered, I think, to be c. 16 in the play).

[Radio64]

[QUOTE=Bryn;376542]Just listened to the start of this morning's Breakfast via the iPlayer. 56 seconds in, CB-H announces a later broadcast of "Monteverdi's Pee into the Western Wind", a work I am not as yet familiar with. I will have to trawl trough the programme to find it.

Yes. She did say that. I was wondering if it was some kind of classical music 'in' joke ..

[clive heath]

Completely off the main thread topic but is the second line just a poetic rearrangement of "the small rain can rain down" ?

O WESTERN wind, when wilt thou blow
(That) the small rain down can rain?
Christ, that my love were in my arms
And I in my bed again!

or is there more to it? especially as some versions don't have the first "That".

[jean]

Just listened to the start of this morning's Breakfast via the iPlayer. 56 seconds in, CB-H announces a later broadcast of "Monteverdi's Pee into the Western Wind",

Yes. She did say that. I was wondering if it was some kind of classical music 'in' joke ..

No, it was just a joke, based on the pretence that the pronounciation of paean differs significantly from that of pee on. It doesn't, of course.

Perhaps it was a musical interpretation of Shelley's Paean to a Bucket.....

(I may be wrong, but I don't think male presenters are quite as likely as women to be the butt of silly jokes like this.)

[Radio64]

No, it was just a joke, based on the pretence that the pronounciation of paean differs significantly from that of pee on. It doesn't, of course.

Ah ok .. sorry; penny just dropped. Nice minimal pair there.

.... (and no I'm not talking about Clemmy)

[Bryn]

... (I may be wrong, but I don't think male presenters are quite as likely as women to be the butt of silly jokes like this.)

I fail to grasp how you might come to that view. The reference to a bucket did recall to me a schoolboy graphical interpretation 'joke' involving four (male) Mexicans and a biscuit tin, however.

[french frank]

No, it was just a joke, based on the pretence that the pronounciation of paean differs significantly from that of pee on. It doesn't, of course.

I'm not convinced it was a deliberate joke. To avoid the double-entendre you simply pause after the word 'paean', so that the word is grasped at once. Or use a different word.

[Domeyhead]

No, it was just a joke, based on the pretence that the pronounciation of paean differs significantly from that of pee on. It doesn't, of course.


(I may be wrong, but I don't think male presenters are quite as likely as women to be the butt of silly jokes like this.)

As the author I can assure that you are indeed wrong. The silliness however is not in doubt.