The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Nick Armstrong]

I can pick it up on my Samsung "smart"phone via the BBC Player (radio only) app wotsit, which is then wired into in-car system via the AUX jack thingy. Bob's yer uncle!

Ingenious, Mr Bond

Roberto è il tuo zio, indeed

[Old Grumpy]

Hi Rads

Yes, after a bit of thought, I deduced it must be something like that. I would imagine you are getting it "down the wire" (so to speak) via the internet through 3G or 4G or whatever.

The 6.30 to 7.30am (GMT) hour is relatively tweet free. The tweetery tends to hot up after 0730 GMT (0830 CET*).

OG

* For the benefit of ff

[Radio64]

Ingenious, Mr Bond

Roberto è il tuo zio, indeed

A far cry from when I first built my own crystal set with the earth wire crocodile-clipped onto the bathroom radiator and the aerial sticking out of the window, although the thrill of hearing R3/4 coming out of my Fiat Punto speakers for the first time was just as exciting.

[Radio64]

Hi Rads

Yes, after a bit of thought, I deduced it must be something like that. I would imagine you are getting it "down the wire" (so to speak) via the internet through 3G or 4G or whatever.

The 6.30 to 7.30am (GMT) hour is relatively tweet free. The tweetery tends to hot up after 0730 GMT (0830 CET*).

OG

* For the benefit of ff

That's right Mr Grumpy, although I'm hoping things will improve even more within the next few years reception-wise. Tweets don't really bother me.

On a similar note (hope I'm not too OT), I was thinking of getting a digital radio for home use. How do they work exactly? Off 'digital air waves' or via wi-fi connection? Can I be sure of getting BBC Radio reception on one? (always bearing in mind I'm "abroad")

Ta.

[AndyJW]

They work off digital airwaves

That's right Mr Grumpy, although I'm hoping things will improve even more within the next few years reception-wise. Tweets don't really bother me.

On a similar note (hope I'm not too OT), I was thinking of getting a digital radio for home use. How do they work exactly? Off 'digital air waves' or via wi-fi connection? Can I be sure of getting BBC Radio reception on one? (always bearing in mind I'm "abroad")

Ta.

[Radio64]

They work off digital airwaves

Ok cheers. So presumably if I can pick it up on my Samsung smartphone the same will be true for a digital radio? Or are they receiving different types of signal?

[Don Petter]

Ok cheers. So presumably if I can pick it up on my Samsung smartphone the same will be true for a digital radio? Or are they receiving different types of signal?

The internet and digital radio are two different delivery systems.

[Nick Armstrong]

The internet and digital radio are two different delivery systems.

Which brings up the interesting (to me) question of DAB radios in cars. I might have to change my motor this year and a number of the options I'm looking at sport an installed DAB radio. I wonder how well the coverage works (I can feel a techie thread coming on) and if it's better generally than FM. I had unusually to drive across central London this morning, and FM frequently goes funny, especially crossing Regent Street about 50 yards south of Broadcasting House (trying to listen to the end of Breakfast, he said, wresting this post back on-topic... )

[Radio64]

Aye, can we have a proper digital radio thread? Who does that?

(feels guilty about taking breakfast topic off course)

edit: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...radios-in-cars

[Old Grumpy]

Ok cheers. So presumably if I can pick it up on my Samsung smartphone the same will be true for a digital radio? Or are they receiving different types of signal?

A digital radio receives a signal from the transmitter in question. What is broadcast through that transmitter will depend on where you are. I doubt if BBC Radio stations are transmitted by DAB in Italy, but I may be wrong. On the other hand an internet connection (via copper wire, fibreoptic cable, WiFi or hi-tech (3G/4G/...G) mobile phone signal) will deliver all stations available on the internet.

If you are considering buying a digital radio for your residence (as opposed to your car) you will be able to purchase a set that can receive both DAB and internet (usually via WiFi) radio [and possibly FM as well].

There are several threads on this elsewhere on this forum (as you may have already discovered).

OG

[Old Grumpy]

(feels guilty about taking breakfast topic off course)

I wouldn't worry about that - we Breakfast listeners are an open-minded bunch...

OG

[Radio64]

I wouldn't worry about that - we Breakfast listeners are an open-minded bunch...

OG

Thanks on both counts Mr Grumpy! Caliban has indeed taken it elsewhere.
Digital radio is being advertised quite a bit in Italy although people are sceptical after the digital TV fiasco of a few years back.

Now then....Breakfast ...

[seabright]

Yes. All this unnecessary hyperbole is very irritating. In fact, all the talk is irritating, but matters just seem to get worse by the day, and a look at the newspapers used to make me groan when Andrew MacGregor presented the early morning programme twenty years ago. Newspapers are a personal thing anyhow, and listeners should not be bombarded with quotes from the Guardian and Independent all the time.

I've no axe to grind here - I'm generally left-wing, but if I do take a paper, which is rarely, I read The Times.

I was interested in your reference to Andrew McGregor. Does anyone remember how many years ago he took over presenting CD Review, as he seems to have been doing it for an awfully long time. Unless my memory is playing false, l seem to recall the programme's presenters were changed every couple of years or so, whereas A McG seems to have signed a life-time contract for the job. Also, didn't the presenters of yore simply announce each new release without adding their own comments, unlike A McG? For some reason, he seems to feel we need to hear his own opinions of each track, instead of letting us make our own minds up on what we've just been listening to. In short, presenters should just present and leave the reviewing to the critics.

[antongould]

It's Skellers

[Sir Velo]

I was interested in your reference to Andrew McGregor. Does anyone remember how many years ago he took over presenting CD Review, as he seems to have been doing it for an awfully long time. Unless my memory is playing false, l seem to recall the programme's presenters were changed every couple of years or so, whereas A McG seems to have signed a life-time contract for the job. Also, didn't the presenters of yore simply announce each new release without adding their own comments, unlike A McG? For some reason, he seems to feel we need to hear his own opinions of each track, instead of letting us make our own minds up on what we've just been listening to. In short, presenters should just present and leave the reviewing to the critics.

Dont get me started on McGregor! His interjections are getting ever more obtrusive. Theres even crept in an irritating little smirk in the voice which I thought was the sole preserve of Katie Derham,presumably all in the name of warmth and accessibility.

Among sundry irritations are the constant need to achieve consensus with his guest(s) usually with the intention of "bigging up" a recording. What's the point in having an expert if their view is constantly being moderated to give an upbeat view? A touch of schadenfreude relieved the toadying to the industry the other week when Mahan Esfahani absolutely refused to do anything other than rubbish a mediocre recording much to the obvious discomfiture of AMcG. Similarly, a recent feature on BluRay had McGregor going on about PlayStations for some unaccountable reason. The guests response: "I'm afraid I dont know about that." Priceless.