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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30283

    Originally posted by antongould View Post
    Who will you make your suggestions to?
    One of the producers. I outlined what I thought people were less keen on, which Gillian Reynolds caught quite well, way back in 2011:

    "Why would you want to know any of this? If you don’t, forgive me. I must be under the influence of the new Radio 3 where the morning presenters now offer details of what they did and what they think with tick-tock regularity. Radio 4’s Feedback will explore on Friday the adverse reactions from regular listeners to this and other novelties. Why all the chat? Where is the demand for phone-ins, charts, newspaper reviews, celebrity guests? Who decided to make the music shorter and more familiar? What’s the difference now between commercial Classic FM and the BBC’s elite musical service? "

    The only thing she got wrong was that it wasn't the BBC Trust which 'ordered' this change: Radio 3 management submitted their proposals to do so, and the Trust just said, Yes, ok.

    This what the Tust actually said, Review p 30, §24:

    We endorse Radio 3’s broad strategy to look for ways to be more accessible and welcoming. In their submission to this review, BBC management stated their intention to continue with this approach in order to encourage sampling amongst audiences. We believe there is some potential to extend the core audience to those who might appreciate the station’s distinctive and challenging offer but who are discouraged from listening by their perception that it can at times be inaccessible and daunting. Developing a welcoming tone, particularly in the breakfast and drive-time slots, will encourage these potential listeners to sample the high-quality programming on offer which will in turn increase Radio 3’s delivery of the public purposes."
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8782

      have I just heard Wor Clemency on Pointless Celebrities. ...Lady Gould is waiting for Strictly. .....

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      • LeMartinPecheur
        Full Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        I think Clemency is a very pretty name. But "Clemmy", as she is routinely addressed by Sarah Walker, is IMHO absolutely revolting!

        Too close to "Clammy"...?
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • Old Grumpy
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 3611

          Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
          I think Clemency is a very pretty name. But "Clemmy", as she is routinely addressed by Sarah Walker, is IMHO absolutely revolting!
          CB-H usually remembers to introduce herself by her Sunday name on Breakfast, but does occasionally forget and use "Clemmy"

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22119

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            have I just heard Wor Clemency on Pointless Celebrities. ...Lady Gould is waiting for Strictly. .....
            Did she and GG win - I had to go out our lights switch-on.

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            • EdgeleyRob
              Guest
              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              have I just heard Wor Clemency on Pointless Celebrities. ...Lady Gould is waiting for Strictly. .....
              ?? Is there any other kind ?

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8782

                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                ?? Is there any other kind ?
                no there is no other kind if it was her with GG she didn't go all the way......

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22119

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  no there is no other kind if it was her with GG she didn't go all the way......
                  I think my money would have been on Robert and Steph!

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8782

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    I think my money would have been on Robert and Steph!
                    yes they won but not the jackpot. .....failing on JLS singles as I'm sure you wouldn't have. .....

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30283

                      Is this what is meant by 'The Eternal Breakfast Debate'?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Is this what is meant by 'The Eternal Breakfast Debate'?
                        Yes, and no mention of local radio's finest cheese-monger, Tom McKinney. I believe he was the one who described the atmosphere at a Mozart concert as 'buzzin'.

                        Welcome to the nadir.
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • clive heath

                          I see we have the cabbie back today, found a "Fabulous Fifties" CD still in its wrapper instead, 1959, Mathis "Misty", Darin "Mack the Knife" and "Beyond the Sea" etc etc, what's not to like?

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22119

                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            yes they won but not the jackpot. .....failing on JLS singles as I'm sure you wouldn't have. .....
                            Thanks for the result Anton. I'm sure I would have failed - they're post 1979 - I'd be better with CCS!

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22119

                              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                              Yes, and no mention of local radio's finest cheese-monger, Tom McKinney. I believe he was the one who described the atmosphere at a Mozart concert as 'buzzin'.

                              Welcome to the nadir.
                              I know nothing of Tom McKinney but I quite like the idea of a Mozart concert buzzing - I can think of Mozart conductors and soloists that would fit the description spot on. On the whole however I prefer the calm Penny Gore style presenter.

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8782

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Is this what is meant by 'The Eternal Breakfast Debate'?
                                Probably not a frivolous use of disc space. ...but Saturday night. ... live a little. ....

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