The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[antongould]

I'm just listening now (quality control). I fail to understand why they would give this job to someone who gives a fine impression of knowing nothing about the music, to an extent that wasn't true back in the days when announcers were reading scripts prepared for them by production staff. As a radio presenter he presumably knows how to work the audio equipment. And lives locally.

Ff were we not promised this chap a few weeks back and he never showed - in fact someone worse, or was it a toaster?, showed up. What has Ian Skelly done not to be given an extended run?

[Old Grumpy]

Don't listen to Breakfast at weekends...


... sounds like I haven't missed much!

OG

[french frank]

Ff were we not promised this chap a few weeks back and he never showed - in fact someone worse, or was it a toaster?, showed up. What has Ian Skelly done not to be given an extended run?

We were indeed promised Radio Merseyside's drivetime presenter.

At least an alert producer corrected his pronunciation of scherzo by the time he made the back announcement. But even the music was no great shakes in terms of imagination: warhorses and not quite warhorses, excuses to plug, single movements ...

[Il Grande Inquisitor]

I'm just listening now (quality control). I fail to understand why they would give this job to someone who gives a fine impression of knowing nothing about the music, to an extent that wasn't true back in the days when announcers were reading scripts prepared for them by production staff.

I listened between 7-8am and was saddened, but not surprised, to hear mispronunciations of 'Tannhäuser', 'Riesling' and 'Paule Constable'.

I don't expect every presenter (or producer) to necessarily know this, but I expect them to find out.

[Old Grumpy]

We were indeed promised Radio Merseyside's drivetime presenter.

At least an alert producer corrected his pronunciation of scherzo by the time he made the back announcement

I would have thought a scouser would give quite an accurate rendition of shkairtzo!!

OG

[french frank]

I would have thought a scouser would give quite an accurate rendition of shkairtzo!!

OG

It was more like shirtso, so even shairtso wouldn't have been a whole lot better .

[cloughie]

It was more like shirtso, so even shairtso wouldn't have been a whole lot better .

When I'm watchin' my T.V.
And that man comes on to tell me
How white my shirts can be
But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarrettes as me
I can't get no, oh no, no, no
Hey hey hey, that's what I say

I can't get no satisfaction

[Northender]

This morning we were informed that during the eeria [sic] in which Smetana composed 'Ma Vlast' he was a citizen of 'what was then Czechoslovakia'. Smetana died in 1884; Czechoslovakia was created after WW1. Somebody's grasp of history and geography seems to be a par with his ability to pronounce foreign names.

[Rupert P Matley]

A few days ago, after the broadcast of the final movement of Mozart's Symphony No. 39 Ms Mohr-Pietsch asked if listening to that music in a restaurant would make one more likely to order a more expensive meal.

I switched off.

[french frank]

And that in 1787 (was I mistaken? surely, I was?) that Don Giovanni was also first performed 'in Czechoslovakia'. This is what one might describe (kindly but sadly) as 'teenage ignorance'. I have more to say about today's programme (and will).

But first, I couldn't quite understand (or perhap my hearing is not what it was), was Ma Vlast being described as a 'paean' to the composer's homeland (yes, Czechoslovakia) ?? Or was it a different word that I wasn't quite catching?

This morning we were informed that during the eeria [sic] in which Smetana composed 'Ma Vlast' he was a citizen of 'what was then Czechoslovakia'. Smetana died in 1884; Czechoslovakia was created after WW1. Somebody's grasp of history and geography seems to be a par with his ability to pronounce foreign names.

[french frank]

I don't, after all, feel inclined to add anything about the weekend's programmes themselves. I merely speculate that there was a misunderstanding somewhere http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpoo...00/8482748.stm

but

1. It is not currently necessary to study classical music for a degree in music at Liverpool University

2. Mustang Sally is an R&B song composed in 1965

3. Local radio is important and very much appreciated by many people

[antongould]

I don't, after all, feel inclined to add anything about the weekend's programmes themselves. I merely speculate that there was a misunderstanding somewhere http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpoo...00/8482748.stm

but

1. It is not currently necessary to study classical music for a degree in music at Liverpool University

2. Mustang Sally is an R&B song composed in 1965

3. Local radio is important and very much appreciated by many people

You have to admit it shows his great love for the very best of lyrics.......




Mustang Sally, think you better slow your mustang down.
Mustang Sally, think you better slow your mustang down.
You been running all over the town now.
Oh! I guess I'll have to put your flat feet on the ground.

All you want to do is ride around Sally, ride, Sally, ride.
All you want to do is ride around Sally, ride, Sally, ride.
All you want to do is ride around Sally, ride, Sally, ride.

One of these early mornings, oh, you gonna be wiping your weeping eyes.
I bought you a brand new mustang 'bout nineteen sixty five
Now you come around signifying a woman, you don't wanna let me ride.
Mustang Sally, think you better slow your mustang down.
You been running all over the town now.
Oh! I guess I'll have to put your flat feet on the ground.

All you want to do is ride around Sally, ride, Sally, ride.
All you want to do is ride around Sally, ride, Sally, ride.

[french frank]

Well, I was wondering, seriously, what you thought of these two diabolically awful programmes.

[vinteuil]

Well, I was wondering, seriously, what you thought of these two diabolically awful programmes.

... well, at #2403 above * I gave you my judgment. I have nothing witty to contribute today -



*

... yep, for me this Simon Hoban - "radio Merseyside drive-time presenter" with his 'matey, shirtsleeves style', as kernelbogey rightly puts it - is so far the lowest Radio 3 has got.

Here I really give up.

[Nick Armstrong]

I have nothing witty to contribute today -

Feeling a little Wan today, vimto?