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  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    well now we know; in 2006 http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/spe...n_future.shtml leads to Ms Margolye's weepies on Breakfast

    now i think that the BBC is a world beater in the digital age for its use of the opportunities ... who now would choose not to have iplayer etc .... but his remarks on content are the issue ...

    Gordon Torr in Managing Creative People [an excellent tome] is scathing about AUNT and creativity ...and the consequent loss of editorial authority in programmes
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      Glad to see that the pesky 'Specialist Classical Chart' continues not to be visible on the R3 homepage - indeed I couldn't find the thing at all on a cursory look through the webiste. Someone's decided to bury it Here it crops up still on Breakfast though. Only a matter of time before it drops from sight there too I suspect

      Wonder whose brainchild that was...

      Still I wonder if we'd have got a nice bracing Shostakovich prelude and fugue on Breakfast without it...
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30235

        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
        now i think that the BBC is a world beater in the digital age for its use of the opportunities ... who now would choose not to have iplayer etc .... but his remarks on content are the issue ...
        ... including, vis-à-vis this particular thread: "One of the biggest points to come out of the staff survey was the feeling that we don't just use people's talents in the BBC as well as we could."

        As with Rob reduced to Comedy Desert Island Discs and The Charts Show, perhaps ...?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Norfolk Born

          'And if you could take just one joke with you, which would it be?'

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            i dunno but this has a certain something about it

            If You Gotta Ask….

            Mort Sahl tells a story about the Jimmy Giuffre 3 performing at a concert for high school students on the West Coast. As Giuffre’s ultra-quiet program unfolded, with clarinet, guitar and bass pursuing their understated roles, the student audience grew perceptibly restless. Finally, one crew-cut, sweatered youth rose in his seat during a number and yelled, ‘Where’s the rhythm?’

            Giuffre stopped playing, quietly walked to the mike and gravely replied, ‘It’s understood.’
            from the excellent jazz site
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • lordmhoram

              Breakfast show this morning

              Good one this morning. Martin Handley announced that among the offerings would be a piece of Shostakovitch. The thought instantly flashed through my mind: "Ah, that'll be the Festive Overture, then." And guess what?

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              • Vile Consort
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 696

                Originally posted by lordmhoram View Post
                Good one this morning. Martin Handley announced that among the offerings would be a piece of Shostakovitch. The thought instantly flashed through my mind: "Ah, that'll be the Festive Overture, then." And guess what?
                Let's be optimistic! The fourth symphony?

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4746

                  Two days ago we also had The Lark Ascending - I really did think my set had turned over to CFM.

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                  • Frances_iom
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2411

                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    Two days ago we also had The Lark Ascending - I really did think my set had turned over to CFM.
                    I think the short term memory of the production team is shot - the presenter can recall recordings from 50 years ago however they seem incapable of recalling that the same piece was played only a short time previous. Another example is the advert for 'live broadcasting' of concerts as being a 'new + exciting thing' on R3 (once advertised as the' home of live music' but now only just beginning to climb out of the train wreck imposed by a certain director)

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      I now listen exclusively to a wonderful radio station in the mornings, Classical KUSC from Southern California. I finally found it, it takes me back to a number of trips out there when the car radio was permanently tuned to it - but our morning is their equivalent of Through the Night, and there is a delightful selection of music so far, good sound too.

                      Sunday night is fun as well - Alec Baldwin the actor but also classical music nut introduces their afternoon show about the New York Phil.

                      http://www.kusc.org/
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Don Petter

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        I now listen exclusively to a wonderful radio station in the mornings, Classical KUSC from Southern California. I finally found it, it takes me back to a number of trips out there when the car radio was permanently tuned to it - but our morning is their equivalent of Through the Night, and there is a delightful selection of music so far, good sound too.

                        Sunday night is fun as well - Alec Baldwin the actor but also classical music nut introduces their afternoon show about the New York Phil.

                        http://www.kusc.org/

                        Well, that was weird! I happened to be listening to the Vermont Public Radio stream when I read your post. I thought - Good to have another classical streaming source, and added KUSC to my favourites. Then I stopped Vermont to have a trial listen to KUSC, and it made no difference. It was the same work. In fact, if you play them together, there is just a slight time difference.

                        So they are both using the same source. All the announcements are word for word, though I think possibly read by different people, and I didn't hear a station ID for KUSC, which must differ from that for Vermont.

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                        • Panjandrum

                          Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                          I think the short term memory of the production team is shot - the presenter can recall recordings from 50 years ago however they seem incapable of recalling that the same piece was played only a short time previous.
                          I suspect the Breakfast (sic) production team has been paying more than a little attention to this list. Expect to see these little-aired ditties played ad nauseum even more than hitherto.

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            Trevor Howard telling Celia Johnson: 'Calm down, dear!'

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                            • barber olly

                              The Hall of Fame always appears to me to have a bias against certain composers. Those composers whose individual works or movements of works are more than about 12 minutes, hence no Don Juan or Till Eulenspiegl.

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                              • MickyD
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 4746

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                I now listen exclusively to a wonderful radio station in the mornings, Classical KUSC from Southern California. I finally found it, it takes me back to a number of trips out there when the car radio was permanently tuned to it - but our morning is their equivalent of Through the Night, and there is a delightful selection of music so far, good sound too.

                                Sunday night is fun as well - Alec Baldwin the actor but also classical music nut introduces their afternoon show about the New York Phil.

                                http://www.kusc.org/
                                Hmm, classical music and Alec Baldwin - I can't think of a nicer combination!

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