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  • Sir Velo
    Full Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 3225

    Am I alone in thinking that the fragrant Sara has developed a habit of gabbling her introductions? The other day, I could have sworn she introduced some Handel as being conducted by a certain Donelle Gardner. Slow down dear!

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8778

      Probably not she does seem very keen to pack in as much as possible. Petroc has gone all pumpkin today!!

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      • salymap
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5969

        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
        Am I alone in thinking that the fragrant Sara has developed a habit of gabbling her introductions? The other day, I could have sworn she introduced some Handel as being conducted by a certain Donelle Gardner. Slow down dear!
        No you are certainly not alone Sir Velo. She starts off moderato but the speech gets faster and faster as she gets into her stride. My hearing is not as good as it was but I can hear and understand most of the male presenters much better than SMP.

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        • Bax-of-Delights
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 745

          Breakfast seems to have moved into an even more bizarre mode in my absence from it. Having switched on this morning just after 8 I heard Petroc Trelawny announce "here's something you will like" and played Rutter's "All Things bright and Beautiful". If there was a vomit smiley available this would the most appropriate reaction to this piece of frightful schmaltz. But even more bizarrely PT back announced it as "well, I'm not too sure about that one."
          Would this make one assume that the pieces of music are chosen by the producer and not the presenter?
          O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30235

            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
            introduced some Handel as being conducted by a certain Donelle Gardner.
            Better than Snivel Marriner ...
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • underthecountertenor
              Full Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1584

              Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
              Breakfast seems to have moved into an even more bizarre mode in my absence from it. Having switched on this morning just after 8 I heard Petroc Trelawny announce "here's something you will like" and played Rutter's "All Things bright and Beautiful". If there was a vomit smiley available this would the most appropriate reaction to this piece of frightful schmaltz. But even more bizarrely PT back announced it as "well, I'm not too sure about that one."
              Would this make one assume that the pieces of music are chosen by the producer and not the presenter?
              Well, to be absolutely fair to him, his ipsissima verba were (in the announcement) 'This is a rather lovely setting of All Things Bright and Beautiful' and not 'here's something you will like' (which would have been rather prescriptive in tone), and (in the back-announcement) 'To be honest, on a second hearing I'm not so sure about that arrangement' - which I thought was a rather refreshing admission. My take on it was that he may have known the setting better in its piano or organ accompanied version and hadn't quite taken on board the schmaltzier aspects of the orchestration we heard (in particular the rhythm section). I may be wrong of course, but at all events his actual words cast a slightly different light on the question of selection. My understanding is that the playlist is a collaborative effort between producer and presenter.

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              • salymap
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5969

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Better than Snivel Marriner ...
                I was trying to think of some Knights who might be Smacdonald or Smartin


                on topic. Still no proper schedule list. Very reluctant to appear and no details re artists.

                Why can't we have the list, minus the calls, etc. They could be added later. Latest - snippets of Peter nd the Wolf. How much worse can it be ?
                Last edited by salymap; 01-11-12, 08:14.

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                • underthecountertenor
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1584

                  Actually, the Peter and the Wolf snippet apart, I'd say that's not a bad playlist as these things go. PT's playlists seem, on the whole, to be very much better than SMP's.

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                    Yes FF the playlists continue to be a mess. I'm sick of complaining to R3 about them, I'm convinced that they don't care about the unprofessional image this creates. This morning collection of regurgitations looks very uninspiring To put it into context, on average there is a chunk of the the Planets every 6.5 days with a Jupiter every 9 days!
                    Having caught up with the COTW Medtner week, I browsed the programme's page for details of the performers. Imagine then, to my surprise, that the "Night Wind" sonata appeared to have gained a soprano obbligato (thankfully inaudible, to me, at any rate), as did another what I had erroneously considered to be purely instrumental piece.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                      If there was a vomit smiley available this would the most appropriate reaction to this piece of frightful schmaltz.
                      There is a range of options available to the discerning listener here, Baxo: http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys-sick.php Just copy the relevant "Forum Code" into your post, and away you go

                      I tend to agree with utct that PT's admission is rather refreshing, if not in the Ian Skelly "car-crash" class
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • salymap
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5969

                        I know comment on the Breakfast menu is useless but I couldn't believe my ears [not very reliable now] when the once beautiful 'Zadok the Priest' was trotted out again.

                        Is there anything we can do about the repetition of such wonderful works.? Switching off is giving in to the people who are doing this to R3.

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                        • antongould
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8778

                          .....but it was a new recording by an ensemble from Cleveland - Cleveland doesn't get enough exposure. When I heard it I thought they'll all be pounding their keyboards now!!!

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                          • salymap
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5969

                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            .....but it was a new recording by an ensemble from Cleveland - Cleveland doesn't get enough exposure. When I heard it I thought they'll all be pounding their keyboards now!!!
                            Morning anton, well I did pound my keyboard.

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                            • antongould
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8778

                              Originally posted by salymap View Post
                              Morning anton, well I did pound my keyboard.
                              .....and wonderfully too, if I may say so!

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                              • Sir Velo
                                Full Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3225

                                There is a substantial difference in quality between the weekend and weekday shows. I happened to catch the first hour of this weekends' shows and both editions demonstrated a degree of thought in the compilation of the playlist which is sorely missing from the weekday shambles. On Saturday, Martin Handley gently eased us into the day with Mussorgsky's evocation of dawn over the Moscow river, and within a few minutes, the sounds of Bax's November Woods provided an aural counterpart to the misty morning which was dawning around us. Other rare and fascinating repertoire included Moeran's 1st rhapsody.

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