Beethoven cadenzas

[Guest]

What were those amazing cadenzas played by Patricia Kopatchinskaja in the Beethoven violin concerto from Jonathan Swain during the night?

Beethoven, Ludwig van [1770 -1827]
Concerto in D major Op.61 for violin and orchestra
Patricia Kopatchinskaja (violin), Orchestra della Svizzera Italiana, Michael Nesterowicz (conductor)

Charles West

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b2c0t

... go to 23mins in. It's a version of Beethoven's own cadenza for the arrangement he made for Piano - as used on Ms Kopatchinskaja's recording with Herreweghe. The Left Hand part has been redistributed to the rest of the orchestra, here - it's not the simpler version (with just Timpani "accompaniment") as used on Schneiderhan's recording with Jochum; and some of the "twiddles" are Kopatchinskaja's own.

[Charles West]

Thank you. How fascinating. i suppose we are so used to the Joachim cadenzas that we think that they are almost part of the concerto.
C.

[Roehre]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b2c0t

... go to 23mins in. It's a version of Beethoven's own cadenza for the arrangement he made for Piano - as used on Ms Kopatchinskaja's recording with Herreweghe. The Left Hand part has been redistributed to the rest of the orchestra, here - it's not the simpler version (with just Timpani "accompaniment") as used on Schneiderhan's recording with Jochum; and some of the "twiddles" are Kopatchinskaja's own.

So it's Kopatchinskaja's own cadenza based on Beethoven's

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

So it's Kopatchinskaja's own cadenza based on Beethoven's

[David-G]

I am always impressed by the knowledge available on this forum!

[visualnickmos]

I am always impressed by the knowledge available on this forum!

Absolutely.

[amateur51]

Many thanks to all for their erudite contributions but particularly to Charles West for alerting me to Pat Kop's highly individual and delightful performance.

The performance of Vaughan Williams symphony no. 5 is well worth catching too, and i'll tyry to remember about it for the next time the "only British orchestras ever play RVW"-crowd fire up on here

[richardfinegold]

Thank you. How fascinating. i suppose we are so used to the Joachim cadenzas that we think that they are almost part of the concerto.
C.

I prefer those of Fritz Kreisler