TtN listing laughables

[Bryn]

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03z9k9z :

01:32
Håvard Gimse Concerto for piano and orchestra no.21 (K.467) in C major

Orchestra: Trondheim Symfoniorkester. Conductor: Susanna Mälkki.

02:01
Ildebrando Pizzetti Requiem mass, for a capella choir

Choir: Chœur de Radio France. Conductor: Donald Palumbo.

02:26
Georg Philipp Telemann Overture (Suite) in D major 'Darmstadt' (TWV.55:d15)

Orchestra: Bergen filharmoniske orkester. Conductor: Roy Goodman.

02:48
Johann Sebastian Bach Sarabande from Suite for solo cello in C (BWV.1009)

Performer: Miklós Perényi.

And there was I thnking K.467 was by Mozart.

[french frank]

And there was I thnking K.467 was by Mozart.

But Håvard Gimse does look very like Mozart, so perhaps that's how the confusion occurred

[David-G]

I see that it has been corrected now. Rather a pity, I was looking forward to hearing some Håvard Gimse.

[french frank]

I see that it has been corrected now.

Has it? Looks the same to me. Furthermore if you click on Håvard Gimse's name you are told there is currently no biography for this artist, and recently played tracks show him as a master of disguise: now he's Mozart, now Brahms, now Grieg, now Weill. They seek him here, they seek him there ...

[Serial_Apologist]

Has it? Looks the same to me. Furthermore if you click on Håvard Gimse's name you are told there is currently no biography for this artist, and recently played tracks show him as a master of disguise: now he's Mozart, now Brahms, now Grieg, now Weill. They seek him here, they seek him there ...

Perhaps when that big boulder finally landed on the first "a" in his name he lost all his sense of identity.

[Ariosto]

Maybe he was Mozart's Ghost Writer?

[Andrew Slater]

There are more such examples in other programmes:

From Essential Classics http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03yqrj2:

02:04
Maurice Duruflé
Requiem, Op.9
Singer: Jennifer Larmore. Singer: Thomas Hampson. Choir: The Ambrosian Singers.
Orchestra: Philharmonia Orchestra. Conductor: Michel Legrand.
Teldec

02:44
Sir John Barbirolli
Cockaigne Overture
Orchestra: Philhamonia Orchestra.
EMI

If they are supposed to be informing beginners, they need to be more careful.

[David-G]

Has it? Looks the same to me. Furthermore if you click on Håvard Gimse's name you are told there is currently no biography for this artist, and recently played tracks show him as a master of disguise: now he's Mozart, now Brahms, now Grieg, now Weill. They seek him here, they seek him there ...

We are both right. On the "main" page you see

01:32

Håvard Gimse Concerto for piano and orchestra no.21 (K.467)
in C major

Orchestra: Trondheim
Symfoniorkester. Conductor: Susanna Mälkki


But if you click "SHOW MORE" (which I always do) you get


2:02 AM
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus (1756-1791)
Concerto for piano and
orchestra no.21 (K.467) in C major
Håvard Gimse (piano), Trondheim Symphony
Orchestra, Susanna Mälkki (conductor)

[ahinton]

As all of this reminds me of a certain Irish gentleman in the early days of Classic FM (sorry for my language, FF - do delete the post if you consider it to be inappropriate) who was once said to have announced "Dvořák's New World Symphony; doesn't say who it's by, though"; one might argue that such gaffes do at least belong to a well-established tradition.

Ah, well - I'm just waiting for Shostakovich's St. Petersburg Symphony...

[french frank]

We are both right. <snip>

That probably was always correct and the miscreant, as usual, the all-pupose software they use which, having committed its faux pas, refuses to be altered by human agency (how could it generate a graphic of Mozart yet announce Gimse as the composer?). Otherwise one might suggest that someone read through the automated playlist for mistakes.

Or, 21st century or not, someone might decide that they lose more than they gain by using the software at all when a human being is producing a correct playlist ... (The moreso if the automated link is only saying that they have no biography of the artist.)

[Suffolkcoastal]

The gaffes in the playlists are now almost daily and have been getting worse. Often there are gaps and partially completed playlists, it takes me longer and longer to do my survey as I have to resort to iplayer regularly to check the actual running order. CFM's playlists are now vastly superior and produced quickly and generally accurately, if they can do it why can't the BBC?

[Roslynmuse]

There have been letters in Radio Times for the last two weeks about the inadequacy of R3 playlists. It's been a particular bugbear of mine and I completely agree with Suffolkcoastal re gaps and partial listings and numerous other inaccuracies and other mistakes. Already noted on other threads were Freddie Mercury supposedly playing Ligeti's Volumina two weeks ago on the Hear and Now playlist (and even when that was eventually corrected, there were other items missing from the listing); it was hopeless trying to navigate round the evening events on Ravel Day via the iPlayer, and this week there have been extra items slipped into Afternoon on 3 on at least two occasions. It *is* important and for anyone trying to keep track of items broadcast (as I try to do with Hear and Now for my own records, and Suffolkcoastal does for the entire R3 music output, for which many thanks and much admiration) it is absolutely disastrous. The reply to the first letter in RT was an insult.

[Roehre]

There have been letters in Radio Times for the last two weeks about the inadequacy of R3 playlists. It's been a particular bugbear of mine and I completely agree with Suffolkcoastal re gaps and partial listings and numerous other inaccuracies and other mistakes. Already noted on other threads were Freddie Mercury supposedly playing Ligeti's Volumina two weeks ago on the Hear and Now playlist (and even when that was eventually corrected, there were other items missing from the listing); it was hopeless trying to navigate round the evening events on Ravel Day via the iPlayer, and this week there have been extra items slipped into Afternoon on 3 on at least two occasions. It *is* important and for anyone trying to keep track of items broadcast (as I try to do with Hear and Now for my own records, and Suffolkcoastal does for the entire R3 music output, for which many thanks and much admiration) it is absolutely disastrous. The reply to the first letter in RT was an insult.

The Schubert-marathon two years ago was that disastrously listed that -for me- important fragments were not to be found in advance, and hardly after the broadcast.

Important numbers/keys/years of composition of works in general are (increasingly) either incorrect or simply completely omitted.