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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    & a reduction in opportunities to tweet our thoughts about what Wotan should do - keep the ring? let Alberich keep it? Give it to the giants, or the Rhinemaidens?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Bert Coules
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 763

      More seasonally, how about the Ring as panto? We could all shout "Look behind you!" to Fasolt, hiss the villains, cheer the heroes, clap along with the forging song, gasp at the magic and get bored at the slushy bits. Fricka as the dame, Siegfried as thigh-slapping principal boy, Brünnhilde as winsome heroine and Loge and Alberich as the comedy double act who do their famous chase-the-toad routine in Nibelheim.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        I think you're onto something, Bert. Casting a woman as Siegfried and a bloke as Brunnhilde would solve a great many of the vocal problems that seem to have arisen in Wagner productions since around 1980!

        And the sword is called "Ohnohe'snothung", isn't it?
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • kernelbogey
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5841

          Wotan trying a helmet on all the Valkyrie... but it only fits Bruennhilde... Gibichung chorus as audience song... Brunnhilde in the ashes at the end... oops no we need a happy ending.... she runs away with Alberich and the ring and they all live happily ever after...?

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          • Mandryka

            Despite Bryn Terfel's underwhelming performance as Wotan, I would still recommend all those who could not be there to listen to these broadcasts.

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            • amateur51

              Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
              Despite Bryn Terfel's underwhelming performance as Wotan, I would still recommend all those who could not be there to listen to these broadcasts.
              No-one can be surprised that Bryn comes from North Wales

              If there's one thing worse than a man with an opinion, it's one who's prepared to share it
              Last edited by Guest; 23-12-12, 12:52. Reason: mega-trypo

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              • Vile Consort
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 696

                Perhaps we could just tweet what we were doing at crucial moments. Something like this ...

                "I was trying to scrape some chewing gum off the bottom of my left shoe during the Ride of the Valkyries" ...

                "During Wotan's farewell I was cleaning Erica's teeth. Erica is our lovely three year old Irish Setter." ...

                "I almost missed the entry into Valhalla because I was in the shed stripping a tallboy." ...

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  Originally posted by Vile Consort View Post
                  "I almost missed the entry into Valhalla because I was in the shed stripping a tallboy." ...
                  I do hope you both enjoyed it.

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    I didn't notice it so much before, but I don't much like Siegmund's voice - rather thin. I would think it was more suited to Mime, with a whiney, wheedling character to it.

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                    • VodkaDilc

                      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                      I didn't notice it so much before, but I don't much like Siegmund's voice - rather thin. I would think it was more suited to Mime, with a whiney, wheedling character to it.
                      I felt the same about his voice. At times it seemed to be submerged by the orchestra. Impressive FM sound, as I remarked yesterday in connection with the King's broadcast.

                      I am pleased with myself for managing to find time for the first two broadcasts. From my point of view, 4.30 is a good time.

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                      • DracoM
                        Host
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 13005

                        Well. I still think Susan Bullock is hard to listen to, and in Siegfried, pretty unconvincing.
                        The trouble with doing something like Siegfried in bleeding chunks is that you get no sense of the sheer magnitude of the piece, nor do you realise why it is that the Siegfried tenor sounds so absolutely knackered by the time he wakes Brunnhilde, let alone by the time he's bashed his way through to the end of Act 3. It's a mammoth sing.

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                        • Flosshilde
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          At the start of the act today I thought he sounded weak, so I had fears for later. Fortunately he seemed to gain strength, I thought. Susan Bullock wasn't the usual strong (butch? ) sounding Brunhilde, but more fragile. I wasn't sure about it, but I think that it was quite suited to Act III Brunhilde.

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                          • Zucchini
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 917

                            ...and R3 will be broadasting The Ring again when Barenboim brings his Staatsoper to the Proms. A terrific coup for Roger Wright with 6,000 tickets a night on offer at low(ish) prices. IGI may know more but I'm sure Barenboim will try to bring his preferred casts: the magnificent Rene Pape, the great Waltraud Meier (although in the twilight of her career), Simon O'Neill and maybe Ian Storey? Who might sing Brunnhilde?

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                            • Prommer
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1275

                              Depends whether he brings the Berlin cast from March or the June one from La Scala, or a hybrid of the two:


                              La Scala

                              Dates:

                              17, 18, 20, 22, 24, 25, 27, 29 June 2013 (Two cycles)

                              Cast:

                              Wotan:Michael Volle / René Pape
                              Brünnhilde :Iréne Theorin
                              Siegfried :Lance Ryan / Ian Storey
                              Siegmund :Simon O'Neill
                              Sieglinde :Waltraud Meier
                              Alberich :Johannes Martin Kränzle
                              Mime :Peter Bronder
                              Erda :Anna Larsson
                              Fricka:Ekaterina Gubanova
                              Fasolt :Iain Paterson
                              Fafner :Alexander Tsymbalyuk
                              Gunther :Gerd Grochowski
                              Gutrune :Marina Poplavskaya
                              Hagen :Mikhail Petrenko
                              Hunding :Mikhail Petrenko
                              Loge :Stephan Rügamer
                              Waltraute :Waltraud Meier / Marina Prudenskaya
                              Freia :Anna Samuil
                              Donner:Jan Buchwald
                              Froh :Marius Vlad
                              Der Wanderer:Juha Uusitalo

                              Conductor: Daniel Barenboim
                              Director: Guy Cassiers
                              Set Designs: Enrico Bagnoli
                              Costumes: Tim Van Steenbergen
                              Lighting: Enrico Bagnoli


                              Staatsoper Unter den Linden

                              Dates:
                              23, 24, 27, 31 March, 4, 5, 7, 10, 13, 14, 18, 21 April 2013 (Three full cycles)

                              Cast:

                              Wotan:René Pape
                              Brünnhilde:Iréne Theorin
                              Siegfried :Lance Ryan / Ian Storey
                              Siegmund :Peter Seiffert / Christopher Ventris
                              Sieglinde :Waltraud Meier
                              Alberich :Johannes Martin Kränzle
                              Mime :Peter Bronder
                              Erda :Anna Larsson
                              Fricka:Ekaterina Gubanova
                              Fafner :Mikhail Petrenko
                              Gunther:Gerd Grochkowski
                              Gutrune :Marina Poplavskaya / Anna Samuil
                              Hagen :Mikhail Petrenko
                              Hunding:Mikhail Petrenko
                              Loge :Stephan Rügamer
                              Waltraute:Marina Prudenskaja / Waltraud Meier
                              Freia :Anna Samuil
                              Donner:Jan Buchwald
                              Froh :Marius Vlad
                              Der Wanderer:Juha Uusitalo

                              Conductor: Daniel Barenboim
                              Director: Guy Cassiers
                              Set Designs: Guy Cassiers / Enrico Bagnoli
                              Costumes: Tim Van Steenbergen
                              Lighting: Enrico Bagnoli

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                              • Prommer
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1275

                                Actually, it will be a hybrid of some sort since Simon O'Neill will be the Proms Siegmund even though the orchestra will be the Staatsoper - and O'Neill is not performing in Berlin but in Milan!

                                Cannot tell from Pape's website if he is booked for this. It looks like he is singing Wotan in Rheingold and Walkure in Berlin, but not in Rheingold in Milan. He is not to be the Wanderer.

                                Ryan will sing the Siegfried Siegfried and Storey the Götterdämmerung.

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