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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Simon Biazeck View Post
    No idea, I'm afraid. 22 November is the next date set aside for protest, details to be decided.
    I ask because I’m paying a rare London visit and will be in the West End pm.
    Many years ago the local theatre here did a protest outside the Arts Council singing “ Do You Hear The People Sing “ from Les Mis . It struck me as a bit weird as any musical less in need of subsidy would be difficult to imagine. Then of course I remembered it was originally (in English ) an RSC / Mackintosh co- pro and the pre first night gossip was that it would be a career -destroying flop.
    That tiny subsidy to the RSC has probably earned enough back in taxes to fund the Arts Council for years - literally hundreds of millions of pounds.
    They are not just killing art they are undermining one of our most successful sectors - the creative industries.

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  • Simon Biazeck
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
    Any idea what time the March is ?
    Good article by Fiona . As she says the cuts to contemporary music performance in both London and Manchester are equally baffling. As a massive generalisation, and leaving aside the global shortage of top quality spinto singers, I would say that overall musical standards in Opera in this country have never been higher - particularly on the orchestra and chorus front. It seems a wrecking ball is to be taking to these achievements .
    No idea, I'm afraid. 22 November is the next date set aside for protest, details to be decided.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
    There is a great deal of sense in your post. ACE has it in for professional music-making of all stripes. For many years now, the organisation has preferred to issue generalised "aspirational" and "celebratory" sound bites, rather than spend time helping formulate logical or practical means to reach their desired goals. I'm told that the defunded Britten Sinfonia made the mistake of putting the maintenance of high quality music-making above box-ticking exercises of diversity, outreach and populism. ACE regards the idea of art as a transcendent, human activity available to all, as hugely suspicious.
    That’s pretty much what emerged in the interview with the ACE director of music on Music Matters . She spoke in code no doubt trying to avoid a “culture wars “ escalation. Music Matters being the absolute high altar of political correctness there was no chance of her being challenged anyway. If the Arts council was really serious about diversity why aren’t they pouring money into Jazz ? That’s something I could get behind . They just hate jazz even more than opera ….

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  • Master Jacques
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    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
    Setting aside for a moment the question as to whether ENO moving out of London is practicable or desirable, I would question the wisdom of handing £17 million to ENO towards relocation costs and devising a business plan. I am not an opera person but even so concerns about ENO management have filtered through to me over the years; against that background what likelihood that £17 mill will be spent to any good purpose let alone wisely? Wouldn't it be better directed at supporting the opera touring activity(including possibly ENO) which already exists, especially in view of the grave difficulties venues are facing paying energy bills (on top of already existing pressures) which is jeopardising their viability and availability? Given the lead time that I assume is involved in coming to its decisions I don't imagine that ACE has factored leccy bills into its bean counting.
    That approach would also enable ACE to tick the "alternative venues/reaching the people" tick boxes it seems to have latched on to.
    The more I read of the funding decisions the more I get the impression that music is not generally considered worth supporting - but I could be wrong, just picking up on those organisations which seem to have been sidelined, such as Britten Sinfonia.
    There is a great deal of sense in your post. ACE has it in for professional music-making of all stripes. For many years now, the organisation has preferred to issue generalised "aspirational" and "celebratory" sound bites, rather than spend time helping formulate logical or practical means to reach their desired goals. I'm told that the defunded Britten Sinfonia made the mistake of putting the maintenance of high quality music-making above box-ticking exercises of diversity, outreach and populism. ACE regards the idea of art as a transcendent, human activity available to all, as hugely suspicious.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
    That "wrecking ball" has been in place since before the lockdown. ACE's 'Shaping the next ten years' consultation document, published in 2019, contained the following paragraph - incidentally, the only reference to opera and ballet in the entire prospectus!

    Quite which research the Arts Council had to support this - highly debatable - sweeping statement was questioned at the time, but it signalled their readiness to move funding away from what they label 'high art', towards projects more obviously aimed at local amateurs, populism (e.g. Blackpool Illuminations) and/or social services.

    That's why the Arts Council of England much prefer us to call them ACE, avoiding this dirty word "arts". Darren Henley's Guardian article this morning could hardly be more explicit about the right-wing governmental pressures to which his organisation has succumbed. It's ACE needs reforming, much more than poor old ENO. It is simply no longer fit for purpose.
    The arts are being crushed by parts of the left who perceive high art to be elitist and parts of the right who don’t think the state should be subsiding them. There are all sorts of anomalies . A lot of what the Arts council are pushing money towards I don’t think is any good and is such low intensity “art” it probably doesn’t need subsidy anyway. I’m all for opportunities to be creative but don’t take away from the best to subsidise my footling attempts to be the next McCoy Tyner . Oh go then do..,I’ll have it in tenners please.

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  • oddoneout
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    Setting aside for a moment the question as to whether ENO moving out of London is practicable or desirable, I would question the wisdom of handing £17 million to ENO towards relocation costs and devising a business plan. I am not an opera person but even so concerns about ENO management have filtered through to me over the years; against that background what likelihood that £17 mill will be spent to any good purpose let alone wisely? Wouldn't it be better directed at supporting the opera touring activity(including possibly ENO) which already exists, especially in view of the grave difficulties venues are facing paying energy bills (on top of already existing pressures) which is jeopardising their viability and availability? Given the lead time that I assume is involved in coming to its decisions I don't imagine that ACE has factored leccy bills into its bean counting.
    That approach would also enable ACE to tick the "alternative venues/reaching the people" tick boxes it seems to have latched on to.
    The more I read of the funding decisions the more I get the impression that music is not generally considered worth supporting - but I could be wrong, just picking up on those organisations which seem to have been sidelined, such as Britten Sinfonia.

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  • Master Jacques
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    That "wrecking ball" has been in place since before the lockdown. ACE's 'Shaping the next ten years' consultation document, published in 2019, contained the following paragraph - incidentally, the only reference to opera and ballet in the entire prospectus!
    That across the population, there are significant differences in how ‘arts and culture’ are defined, understood and valued; many people are uncomfortable with the label ‘the arts’, and associate it only with either the visual arts or ‘high art’, such as ballet or opera. At the same time most people in this country have active cultural lives and value opportunities to be creative.
    Quite which research the Arts Council had to support this - highly debatable - sweeping statement was questioned at the time, but it signalled their readiness to move funding away from what they label 'high art', towards projects more obviously aimed at local amateurs, populism (e.g. Blackpool Illuminations) and/or social services.

    That's why the Arts Council of England much prefer us to call them ACE, avoiding this dirty word "arts". Darren Henley's Guardian article this morning could hardly be more explicit about the right-wing governmental pressures to which his organisation has succumbed. It's ACE needs reforming, much more than poor old ENO. It is simply no longer fit for purpose.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Simon Biazeck View Post
    The event is now an in-house - no police to grapple with unruly choristers and no room for supporters beyond ENO, for now. There may be a march on 22 November.
    Any idea what time the March is ?
    Good article by Fiona . As she says the cuts to contemporary music performance in both London and Manchester are equally baffling. As a massive generalisation, and leaving aside the global shortage of top quality spinto singers, I would say that overall musical standards in Opera in this country have never been higher - particularly on the orchestra and chorus front. It seems a wrecking ball is to be taking to these achievements .

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  • Simon Biazeck
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    Originally posted by Belgrove View Post
    Fiona Maddocks uses her review column in today’s Observer to highlight the cuts made by ACE, not just to ENO



    She mentions there will be a protest outside the Coliseum at 11 am on Monday, should anyone be in the area.
    The event is now an in-house - no police to grapple with unruly choristers and no room for supporters beyond ENO, for now. There may be a march on 22 November.

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  • Master Jacques
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    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    What an idiot!
    I hope Darren Henley enjoys his recent CBE during his long retirement, which must surely be imminent. The fact that such a shallow buffoon can become CEO of the Arts Council of England (as successor to Radio 3's own Alan Davey) tells us everything about a gravy train for mediocrities which has trashed the old-fashioned idea that the Arts Council exists to facilitate bringing the best art to the largest number of people.

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    Arts Council chief: to survive funding slash, opera should move to car parks and pubs
    What an idiot!

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  • kernelbogey
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    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    And here's the ACE take, from the Guardian:
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...pera-car-parks
    Arts Council chief: to survive funding slash, opera should move to car parks and pubs

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  • Pulcinella
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    From ENO trustee Huw van Steenis in today's Times:

    What do you do when all the energy you’ve put into performing over many years is suddenly threatened? That’s how the amazing singers, musicians and technicians


    And here's the ACE take, from the Guardian:

    Last edited by Pulcinella; 14-11-22, 08:29.

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  • ChandlersFord
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    Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
    If you're referencing Arnold Bennett, by happy chance I'm re-reading Anna of the Five Towns even now, with renewed admiration and pleasure. As with Priestley, Bennett may come in under the cognoscenti's radar these days, but there's still a great deal to savour in the quality (and quiet anger) of his best novels. So he retains at least one satisfied reader!
    I tried reading Clayhanger some years ago, but gave up. Not many books defeat me, but that one did....!

    The only thing of Bennett's I've read right through is Sacred & Profane Love - widely considered his worst novel and one of the worst novels by a 'name' writer. Despite, or maybe because of this, I rather enjoyed it.


    I also highly recommend Margaret Drabble's Bennett biography, which is probably better than anything AB ever wrote.


    These days, the omelette that bears his name is more famous than he is! :)

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  • Master Jacques
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
    Very important that as many people as possible sign…
    Quite so - whatever the deficiencies of the ENO management, ACE and HM Government are the real villains here, and must be held to account. We owe it to future generations, not to let opera be killed off on our watch.

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