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The Valkyrie - ENO
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Originally posted by Darkbloom View PostSherratt is more of a traditional bass than John Tom, who also sang Figaro and the Dutchman. My guess would be that Wotan is a step too far for him. He has a beautiful voice and he seems like someone who picks his roles with care. He's friends with JT so I'm sure he has discussed it. I hope we hear his Gurnemanz soon, that seems a role made for him.
(When I say received opinion, I'm happy to be corrected by those with better insight.....).
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostOff thread so apologies - Have you been to Macbeth? I hear Simon K and the entire production is stunning.
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Originally posted by Simon B View PostAgreed, and it'll make a change after a recent run of impressively realised thugs (Claggart, Fafner, Hunding):
https://www.operanorth.co.uk/whats-o...-creative-team (Leeds/Gateshead/Manchester/Nottingham/London Summer 2022)
I enjoyed the ENO Walkure yesterday more than I expected to, despite a strangely... low rent... feel to the whole thing. I'm inclined to cut the production some slack on the basis that ENO is presumably even more near-bankrupt than pre-Covid. Maybe the entire budget was allocated to the now-prohibited magic fire... What the Met will make of it, if they go ahead, is anyone's guess. Though what Jones did with Meistersinger for WNO, later reused by ENO (the best production of any Wagner I've ever seen, though other opinions are of course available) also on a likely budget of £3.99 and some left over curtains is a counterargument.
I'd be interested to know what you enjoyed about it, Simon. I went with a completely open mind (I'm a Richard Jones fan, and even enjoyed his ROH Ring once I got into it), but with the exception of some of the singing and some occasional interesting detail in the orchestral playing (the result of insight or misjudged balance on the part of Brabbins? I couldn't decide), the whole thing left me pretty underwhelmed and cold.
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostI'd be interested to know what you enjoyed about it, Simon. I went with a completely open mind (I'm a Richard Jones fan, and even enjoyed his ROH Ring once I got into it), but with the exception of some of the singing and some occasional interesting detail in the orchestral playing (the result of insight or misjudged balance on the part of Brabbins? I couldn't decide), the whole thing left me pretty underwhelmed and cold.
That said, Act I in particular left me cold but it seemed things tightened up a bit after that. Possibly of note is that I was out of the building by 22:05 suggesting Brabbins may have got a bit of a shift on compared with what I gathered about the dress and first night. The singing was uneven but Nicky Spence was a pleasure to listen to and until he tired towards the end personally I enjoyed the more lyrical than usual Wotan of Matthew Rose. To my surprise, it being sung in English was a plus point as it meant I picked up much more than usual of what everyone is actually going on (and on) about in the lengthier monologues. The production was so minimal that in these moments it essentially ceased to exist which can be a plus.
Overall though, merely pleasant enough on the whole, which is damning with faint praise. It made me retrospectively appreciate the recent ROH production more, much though there was wrong with that. Coups de theatre like essentially filling the entire stage with flames such that you could feel the blast of heat hitting you may be cheap thrills, but for simple souls like me etc...
I'm off to Macbeth this evening which will hopefully live up to what has been said about it here and elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Simon B View PostThe trite and not intentionally facetious answer is - (some of) the music... There are some bits (mainly but not exclusively the well known purple passages) that are of such quality that if even vaguely competently performed it'll hit the spot to some degree for a simple soul like me.
That said, Act I in particular left me cold but it seemed things tightened up a bit after that. Possibly of note is that I was out of the building by 22:05 suggesting Brabbins may have got a bit of a shift on compared with what I gathered about the dress and first night. The singing was uneven but Nicky Spence was a pleasure to listen to and until he tired towards the end personally I enjoyed the more lyrical than usual Wotan of Matthew Rose. To my surprise, it being sung in English was a plus point as it meant I picked up much more than usual of what everyone is actually going on (and on) about in the lengthier monologues. The production was so minimal that in these moments it essentially ceased to exist which can be a plus.
Overall though, merely pleasant enough on the whole, which is damning with faint praise. It made me retrospectively appreciate the recent ROH production more, much though there was wrong with that. Coups de theatre like essentially filling the entire stage with flames such that you could feel the blast of heat hitting you may be cheap thrills, but for simple souls like me etc...
I'm off to Macbeth this evening which will hopefully live up to what has been said about it here and elsewhere.
As to pacing, I thought Act 1 lacked impetus and seemed longer than usual. The later scenes of Act 3, by contrast, seemed too quick (though I wonder whether that was partly to do with not wanting to put even more strain on Rose).
I can't decide whether I would dislike any sung translation of the Ring, or whether I just disliked Deathridge's. I thought it was clumsy, with some really clunking filler words (such as the use of 'Just' at the beginning of a line, seemingly just as syllabic ballast.
I've just booked a ticket to Macbeth next week.
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The God’s are not smiling on this production. Colds affected the first night, Westminster Council put a dampener on the fire effects, and on Sunday’s performance, Matthew Rose was unable to sing, neither was his understudy, so a substitute from Munich was flown in to sing (in German) the role from the side while Rose acted. Unfortunately I failed to register who the singer was, a shame since he provided the best singing of the evening. There are plenty of images around for how this production looks, so it’s better to try and discern what it means, which is difficult through starting with the second work in the cycle.
It would seem we are already in a post-apocalyptic world, ash falls from the sky, as though Götterdämmerung has already happened. Hunding is assisted by a bunch of back-woodsmen, who resemble the feral marauders in McCarthy’s The Road, or the swamp dwellers in Deliverance. So the world is out of kilter. Surprisingly, Jones starts the drama in the same way as his ROH Walkure, with Sieglinde conjuring Siegmund from the hearth, the man of her dreams to whisk her way from Hunding’s brutish attentions (Brindley Sherratt’s dark chocolate voice the epitome of malevolence), but nothing obtains from this notion. There was no frisson between Siegmund and Sieglinde, and Siegmund’s careering around the stage at the end of act 1 was embarrassing. Wotan’s long narration with Brunhilde is accompanied by a back-projection of Alberich, who vanishes each time Wotan turns to face the apparition. This works well and highlights Wotan’s preoccupation, even as if the whole Ring is a psycho-drama being played out in Wotan’s mind, but perhaps that is a speculation too far (could be interesting though?) An earthen trench crosses the stage during the third scene in act 2, to no discernible purpose, could it be a visual motif that may reoccur? I have no idea what the tap-dancing pixy was about during the Ride of the Valkyries… . The Valkyrie horses are a bunch of pantomime dobbins, who look rather embarrassed in shuffling from side to side. The translation by John Deathridge is clunky, too often providing a mixture of utterances as if by Yoda or Finbarr Saunders from Viz (‘Fafner lurks in the forest where he sits on Alberich’s Ring’). So the production is muddled and fails to cohere. Not even lighting effects were used to substitute for the lack of flames in the climax of the work after more than a week since opening. That’s just shoddy.
Sadly the orchestra failed to ignite too. The furious opening sounded more like a buzzing fly than a tempest and simply lacked volume (chatting with an orchestra member in the pub afterwards revealed that social distancing in the pit has depleted the string section - a portent for the future?) Or maybe it was the cloth drapes at the back and sides of the stage that simply absorbed the sound. Brabbin’s conducting was uninspiring, no sense of excitement or of the architecture that creates those huge musical spans (with a notable exception of the encounter between Brunhilde and Siegmund, whose slow acceleration was skilfully paced). This may be through having to accommodate for the stand-in Wotan of course.
So all in all, a disappointment. This is meant to be a co-production with the Met. They may well reconsider on this showing. If it does transfer, I can envision the NYC cops in Lincoln Plaza instructing patrons to ‘Move along … nothing to see here’. There certainly won’t be much scenery for them to applaud.
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Originally posted by Belgrove View PostThe God’s are not smiling on this production. Colds affected the first night, Westminster Council put a dampener on the fire effects, and on Sunday’s performance, Matthew Rose was unable to sing, neither was his understudy, so a substitute from Munich was flown in to sing (in German) the role from the side while Rose acted. Unfortunately I failed to register who the singer was, a shame since he provided the best singing of the evening. There are plenty of images around for how this production looks, so it’s better to try and discern what it means, which is difficult through starting with the second work in the cycle.
It would seem we are already in a post-apocalyptic world, ash falls from the sky, as though Götterdämmerung has already happened. Hunding is assisted by a bunch of back-woodsmen, who resemble the feral marauders in McCarthy’s The Road, or the swamp dwellers in Deliverance. So the world is out of kilter. Surprisingly, Jones starts the drama in the same way as his ROH Walkure, with Sieglinde conjuring Siegmund from the hearth, the man of her dreams to whisk her way from Hunding’s brutish attentions (Brindley Sherratt’s dark chocolate voice the epitome of malevolence), but nothing obtains from this notion. There was no frisson between Siegmund and Sieglinde, and Siegmund’s careering around the stage at the end of act 1 was embarrassing. Wotan’s long narration with Brunhilde is accompanied by a back-projection of Alberich, who vanishes each time Wotan turns to face the apparition. This works well and highlights Wotan’s preoccupation, even as if the whole Ring is a psycho-drama being played out in Wotan’s mind, but perhaps that is a speculation too far (could be interesting though?) An earthen trench crosses the stage during the third scene in act 2, to no discernible purpose, could it be a visual motif that may reoccur? I have no idea what the tap-dancing pixy was about during the Ride of the Valkyries… . The Valkyrie horses are a bunch of pantomime dobbins, who look rather embarrassed in shuffling from side to side. The translation by John Deathridge is clunky, too often providing a mixture of utterances as if by Yoda or Finbarr Saunders from Viz (‘Fafner lurks in the forest where he sits on Alberich’s Ring’). So the production is muddled and fails to cohere. Not even lighting effects were used to substitute for the lack of flames in the climax of the work after more than a week since opening. That’s just shoddy.
Sadly the orchestra failed to ignite too. The furious opening sounded more like a buzzing fly than a tempest and simply lacked volume (chatting with an orchestra member in the pub afterwards revealed that social distancing in the pit has depleted the string section - a portent for the future?) Or maybe it was the cloth drapes at the back and sides of the stage that simply absorbed the sound. Brabbin’s conducting was uninspiring, no sense of excitement or of the architecture that creates those huge musical spans (with a notable exception of the encounter between Brunhilde and Siegmund, whose slow acceleration was skilfully paced). This may be through having to accommodate for the stand-in Wotan of course.
So all in all, a disappointment. This is meant to be a co-production with the Met. They may well reconsider on this showing. If it does transfer, I can envision the NYC cops in Lincoln Plaza instructing patrons to ‘Move along … nothing to see here’. There certainly won’t be much scenery for them to applaud.
I just wish I’d had the compensatory pleasure of Konieczny’s Wotan as you did.
PS the ROH Macbeth was terrific tonight.
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostI’m relieved that your reaction was almost exactly the same as mine (especially as you enjoyed Jones’s ROH Ring as I did).
I just wish I’d had the compensatory pleasure of Konieczny’s Wotan as you did.
PS the ROH Macbeth was terrific tonight.
Glad you enjoyed Macbeth.
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It is in many ways a fine production, pleasing to older audiences, but perhaps it missed excitement. When the curtain rose at the start of Act 3 - following that tremendous Ride of The Valkyrie build up - to corpses hanging on strings and a fey Pixie doing an Irish dance, I couldn't help but think of the disappointment experienced by those teenagers who'd been given free seats at the dress rehearsal. And for heaven's sake, when Westminster council banned the fire at the end, could not the production team at least have laid on a bit of a light show? Holograms would not have added much to the expense.
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Originally posted by Bella Kemp View PostIt is in many ways a fine production, pleasing to older audiences, but perhaps it missed excitement. When the curtain rose at the start of Act 3 - following that tremendous Ride of The Valkyrie build up - to corpses hanging on strings and a fey Pixie doing an Irish dance, I couldn't help but think of the disappointment experienced by those teenagers who'd been given free seats at the dress rehearsal. And for heaven's sake, when Westminster council banned the fire at the end, could not the production team at least have laid on a bit of a light show? Holograms would not have added much to the expense.
Martyn Brabbins pacing & the orchestral playing were excellent. Of the principals, Sue Bickley was the stand-out as a laser-voiced ball-breaking Fricka, but then she doesn't have to save herself for a whole evening. Nicky Spence & Rachel Nicholls were as good as I've heard live, & Emma Bell powerfully affecting if occasionally squally. Matthew Rose coped manfully with Act 2, but the sadistic Richard W, whose increasingly tortured chromaticism in Act 3 reflects Wotan's horrible dichotomy, got the better of him. Great octet of Valkyries.
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Originally posted by Maclintick View PostMatthew Rose coped manfully with the first 2 acts, but the sadistical Richard W, whose increasingly tortured chromaticism in Act 3 reflects Wotan's horrible dichotomy, got the better of him. Great octet of Valkyries.
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