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  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5808

    #61
    I've booked for the last night, 10 December.

    Does anyone know if the new libretto is available to purchase?

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    • underthecountertenor
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      • Apr 2011
      • 1586

      #62
      I don’t think it is, but if it were I wouldn’t waste my money. One of the several disappointments of the evening for me was the translation, which the cast departed from very frequently (but perhaps not frequently enough).

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6975

        #63
        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
        I don’t think it is, but if it were I wouldn’t waste my money. One of the several disappointments of the evening for me was the translation, which the cast departed from very frequently (but perhaps not frequently enough).
        Where do you stand on Matthew Rose’s Wotan ? Mixed reviews .

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        • underthecountertenor
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          • Apr 2011
          • 1586

          #64
          I’m afraid I was on the negative side. Started well enough, but I think he lacked the stamina for it. The Farewell lacked body and too often sounded sour.
          Standouts for me were Spence, Nicholls and Sherratt.

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          • Ein Heldenleben
            Full Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 6975

            #65
            Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
            I’m afraid I was on the negative side. Started well enough, but I think he lacked the stamina for it. The Farewell lacked body and too often sounded sour.
            Standouts for me were Spence, Nicholls and Sherratt.
            Yes that’s what I thought from some of the better reviewers . Does Sherratt have the range for Wotan? - do you need a top F or something like? The Lebewohl has an E flat I think. Maybe The Wanderer goes higher ..
            He’s certainly got the voice.
            I see John Tom was at the first night. Must have been weird for him …
            Spence is remarkable- he was oustanding in Jenufa . So hard-working,,,,

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            • underthecountertenor
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              • Apr 2011
              • 1586

              #66
              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
              Yes that’s what I thought from some of the better reviewers . Does Sherratt have the range for Wotan? - do you need a top F or something like? The Lebewohl has an E flat I think. Maybe The Wanderer goes higher ..
              He’s certainly got the voice.
              I see John Tom was at the first night. Must have been weird for him …
              Spence is remarkable- he was oustanding in Jenufa . So hard-working,,,,
              I have to say that Sherratt struck me as a possible Wotan in the John Tom mould. I couldn’t say for certain whether he has the range for it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
              Agreed re N Spence in Jenufa. Hard to believe that he managed it at the same time as preparing Siegmund. He comes over as very level-headed, good-humoured and positive, as well as being an excellent singer.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6975

                #67
                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                I have to say that Sherratt struck me as a possible Wotan in the John Tom mould. I couldn’t say for certain whether he has the range for it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
                Agreed re N Spence in Jenufa. Hard to believe that he managed it at the same time as preparing Siegmund. He comes over as very level-headed, good-humoured and positive, as well as being an excellent singer.
                His lockdown Wigmore recital of Czech songs was extraordinary. To achieve that level of commitment and communication with no audience must be very difficult.
                My instinct is that Brindley is a possible Wotan very much in that dark timbred JT mould which I think suits the character better than ( shall we say ) more genial recent voices…

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                • underthecountertenor
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                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1586

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                  His lockdown Wigmore recital of Czech songs was extraordinary. To achieve that level of commitment and communication with no audience must be very difficult.
                  My instinct is that Brindley is a possible Wotan very much in that dark timbred JT mould which I think suits the character better than ( shall we say ) more genial recent voices…

                  and

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                  • ARBurton
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 331

                    #69
                    Anyone know if Radio 3 and their trusty microphones are attending?

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6975

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ARBurton View Post
                      Anyone know if Radio 3 and their trusty microphones are attending?
                      That’s a very good question. I sincerely hope so

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6975

                        #71
                        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post

                        and
                        Off thread so apologies - Have you been to Macbeth? I hear Simon K and the entire production is stunning.

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                        • LHC
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1567

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                          Off thread so apologies - Have you been to Macbeth? I hear Simon K and the entire production is stunning.
                          Forgive me for butting in, but I went to the Dress Rehearsal of Macbeth. Simon K is indeed very good. His voice seems to have darkened and grown in size since he last sang it here. That suits the part very well, and if anything his singing is even better than last time (when it was already very fine indeed). Anna Pirozzi as Lady Macbeth is simply stunning. Again, she has sung the role here before (the last time alternating with Netrebko), but is even better this time. Gunther Groissbock is a fantastic bass, and sings Banquo very well, although I'm not entirely convinced he is a natural Verdi bass as I think he's better suited to Wagner. The tenors singing MacDuff and Malcolm are both good, but not in the same league as the other three. The Chorus and Orchestra play wonderfully under the Daniele Rustioni (a previous Young Artist and assistant to Pappano), and the production comes up very well.

                          I'd certainly recommend a visit wholeheartedly, and getting back on topic, a much better experience overall than the sadly rather disappointing Valkyrie at ENO.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6975

                            #73
                            Thanks so much for the off thread post (for which I take full responsibility) . What started me off was hearing Simon K on Radio 3 singing a Broadway tune . I then got sidetracked into listening to the entire album. What an artist - completely in the musical genre and yet singing Macbeth on the ROH live stream on Friday night !

                            To get back on thread - how lucky we are to so many talented singers in this country and how wonderful that they are back live on stage in the giants of the 19th century stage - Verdi and Wagner .

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                            • Darkbloom
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 706

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              His lockdown Wigmore recital of Czech songs was extraordinary. To achieve that level of commitment and communication with no audience must be very difficult.
                              My instinct is that Brindley is a possible Wotan very much in that dark timbred JT mould which I think suits the character better than ( shall we say ) more genial recent voices…
                              Sherratt is more of a traditional bass than John Tom, who also sang Figaro and the Dutchman. My guess would be that Wotan is a step too far for him. He has a beautiful voice and he seems like someone who picks his roles with care. He's friends with JT so I'm sure he has discussed it. I hope we hear his Gurnemanz soon, that seems a role made for him.

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                              • Simon B
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 782

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
                                Sherratt ... I hope we hear his Gurnemanz soon, that seems a role made for him.
                                Agreed, and it'll make a change after a recent run of impressively realised thugs (Claggart, Fafner, Hunding):

                                https://www.operanorth.co.uk/whats-o...-creative-team (Leeds/Gateshead/Manchester/Nottingham/London Summer 2022)

                                I enjoyed the ENO Walkure yesterday more than I expected to, despite a strangely... low rent... feel to the whole thing. I'm inclined to cut the production some slack on the basis that ENO is presumably even more near-bankrupt than pre-Covid. Maybe the entire budget was allocated to the now-prohibited magic fire... What the Met will make of it, if they go ahead, is anyone's guess. Though what Jones did with Meistersinger for WNO, later reused by ENO (the best production of any Wagner I've ever seen, though other opinions are of course available) also on a likely budget of £3.99 and some left over curtains is a counterargument.

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