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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
    • 6932

    #46
    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    Mine - earlier on - is Das ist kein Mann!
    A line which often gets a laugh in the theatre ...

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    • Petrushka
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12308

      #47
      Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
      A line which often gets a laugh in the theatre ...
      I've always thought that the humour in the Ring, especially in Das Rheingold, is too often underestimated when it's considered at all, and that's in the orchestra as well as the text.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
        • 6932

        #48
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
        I've always thought that the humour in the Ring, especially in Das Rheingold, is too often underestimated when it's considered at all, and that's in the orchestra as well as the text.
        Agreed - there’s also quite a bit in Siegfried - although a bit “Germanic” if you like - rather like that in Anglo-Saxon poetry .

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12934

          #49
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          One of my (many) guilty secrets is that I always provide this myself when listening to a Brünnhilde only Immolation Scene recording.
          ... I briefly did some 'English as a Foreign Language' teaching at Regent's Park College for recent East Germans who were being re-programmed to be good Federal Germans - I recall one student, Hagen by name, always the most indolent of his class - the temptation to cry out „Schläfst du, Hagen, mein Sohn ?“ was not always resisted...

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12308

            #50
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... I briefly did some 'English as a Foreign Language' teaching at Regent's Park College for recent East Germans who were being re-programmed to be good Federal Germans - I recall one student, Hagen by name, always the most indolent of his class - the temptation to cry out „Schläfst du, Hagen, mein Sohn ?“ was not always resisted...

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            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
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              #51
              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
              Agreed - there’s also quite a bit in Siegfried - although a bit “Germanic” if you like - rather like that in Anglo-Saxon poetry .
              There's one orchestral touch of humour in Scene 3 of Das Rheingold that has quietly amused me for years. At the point where Loge asks Mime 'Was Wunder wimmerst du hier?' the theatrical instruction, for Loge, reads 'bending over Mime' whereupon the oboe, I think, gives a two note bending figure precisely at the point where Loge bends over.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • duncan
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                • Apr 2012
                • 248

                #52
                Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                Seriously, not sure who the Brunnhildes are these days. Is it because no-one much is trying the role?
                Fair enough! There are no Astrid Varnays, although the role is current better served than Wotan or Siegfried in my view.

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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12308

                  #53
                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  Seriously, not sure who the Brunnhildes are these days. Is it because no-one much is trying the role?
                  Nottingham born Catherine Foster has sung the role just about everywhere except in her home country. Has anyone on here heard her?

                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • LHC
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1561

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    Nottingham born Catherine Foster has sung the role just about everywhere except in her home country. Has anyone on here heard her?

                    http://www.catherinefostersoprano.co...phy/index.html
                    I haven’t seen her live, but she was Brunnhilde in the Ring cycle at Bayreuth broadcast by Sky in 2016, directed by Frank Castorf and conducted by Marek Janowski (and which I still have on DVD somewhere). My recollection is that she was a good deal better than some of the previous Brunnhildes we have had at Covent Garden, but not quite at the same level as Nina Stemme.

                    I’d be happy to encounter her in the theatre, but I didn’t find her voice as thrilling as Rita Hunter’s, or as beautiful as Anne Evans’.
                    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                    • duncan
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                      • Apr 2012
                      • 248

                      #55
                      I’ve heard her live twice as Brünnhilde, in Weimar 12 years ago and at Bayreuth 4 years ago (and Nina Stemme twice, in Vienna and Covent Garden). LHC has it spot on in every respect. She was a very believable Wotan’s favourite no-nonsense daughter, warrior, goddess (as a no-nonsense former nurse) and would be a great fit for an ENO production. My only concern would be the size of her voice in the barn-like Colli. I felt she was a little better in Weimar than Bayreuth, possibly down to not having to push her voice so much or just being a little younger. It could also have been my relative expectations.

                      Parenthetically, I really enjoyed the Weimar ring: a small theatre where stalls seats could be had for €50, enthusiastic cast not straining their voices, team all familiar with each other, simple but imaginative production, set and costumes*, and the town itself of course. There is a lot to be said for good repertory theatre.

                      *Not everyone’s taste, an ACE cultural tour spent every interval harrumphing about something and there was some energetic booing at end of Siegfried act 1 (the set design team seemed to have spent the last of their €2.50 budget).
                      Last edited by duncan; 25-02-21, 11:46. Reason: Jumbled LHC’s initials

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