Glyndebourne 2020

[Dave2002]

It's not a "hit" for the audience at all
It's a "miss" in terms of missing a gig
but for those who make it happen it's the potential loss of work

Sorry to pick you up on economics, but it's an actual loss for the audience if they paid for something and don't receive what they've paid for, not just a potential one. Whereas the artists lose out on potential loss of work, the audience members do miss out on "actual" reward - though we can argue about whether their reward was for work or for something else. If you take the view that they're all rich, so can afford it - well that's another matter.

It's unfortunate whatever happens.

[MrGongGong]

Sorry to pick you up on economics, but it's an actual loss for the audience if they paid for something and don't receive what they've paid for, not just a potential one. Whereas the artists lose out on potential loss of work, the audience members do miss out on "actual" reward - though we can argue about whether their reward was for work or for something else. If you take the view that they're all rich, so can afford it - well that's another matter.

It's unfortunate whatever happens.

Those who paid to go to the gig will simply get one less gig
Those who rely on the money to live, feed their families and put a roof over their heads are the ones who will really lose out

and YES, it does come down to some folks being rich enough to cope

(and i'm NOT talking about myself.... I know how little some of those who make music happen get for their work... they need our support.)

[Dave2002]

We could get into pointless discussions about the "deserving poor". Why are musicians any more deserving than anyone else?

The issue is surely that perhaps many people are going to suffer in some way, and should (but that's a moral thing) be supported by those who are able to do so.

[MrGongGong]

We could get into pointless discussions about the "deserving poor". Why are musicians any more deserving than anyone else?

The issue is surely that perhaps many people are going to suffer in some way, and should (but that's a moral thing) be supported by those who are able to do so.

Musicians aren't more deserving
But those who can afford to buy expensive opera tickets are able to support musicians (assuming they actually care about music ?)

Unless those with the most are made to support those with the least they will carry on hoarding wealth.
So, get a refund by all means
BUT spend the money to benefit those who need it be they musicians or not

[Dave2002]

Musicians aren't more deserving
But those who can afford to buy expensive opera tickets are able to support musicians (assuming they actually care about music ?)

Unless those with the most are made to support those with the least they will carry on hoarding wealth.
So, get a refund by all means
BUT spend the money to benefit those who need it be they musicians or not

I broadly agree with you, though I could quibble over wording - which I won't right now. I think my earlier wording was and still is appropriate.

The issue is surely that perhaps many people are going to suffer in some way, and should (but that's a moral thing) be supported by those who are able to do so.

[Bax-of-Delights]

Glyndebourne will be making an announcement later today. One suspects the RHO and ENO closures might indicate which way this is going to go.

[teamsaint]

Universal Basic income would help less well paid and financially insecure musicians

Maybe an idea whose time has come. Perhaps a few of the musicians that I go hear to turn their political campaigning in that direction.

[Bax-of-Delights]

Glyndebourne just announced that it is reviewing the schedule for the 2020 Festival programme and thanks everyone for their patience as the situation evolves. More detail to come Friday 20th March.

[duncan]

They are cancelling all performances to July 14th. I had tickets for the 30th June, the email I received included this request:

Please help us support our artists and staff

Our hearts go out to all our artists and loyal seasonal staff – two-thirds of our total workforce – who face a particularly bleak situation: for them, these cancellations mean the loss of their livelihood.

Can you help us to support them? This is a personal plea that you consider converting the value of your cancelled tickets, either in part or full, into a donation (on which we will claim Gift Aid wherever possible) that will help us secure the company’s long-term financial viability and support these crucial members of the Glyndebourne family who have lost their income.

We appreciate that making a donation may not be feasible for everyone and will continue to offer refunds. Following this message you’ll find an outline of next steps in relation to your cancelled tickets.

I'd consider this but it's unfortunately a little unclear to me how much of the donation will go to artists and staff.

[bluestateprommer]

Not sure if anyone else had noticed the "Outdoor Opera" program(me) that Glyndebourne has announced, to salvage something from this summer:

https://www.glyndebourne.com/events/outdoor-opera/

Or perhaps those in the know here didn't want to let the secret out :) . In any case, all the tickets for all the shows are long gone.

FWIW, on duncan's point about donations, I made a small donation to Glyndebourne America through my workplace, as a very modest gesture, since I've watched several of the videos, and earmarked it for support of digital offerings.