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  • Conchis
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    • Jun 2014
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    #16
    My main memory of David McVicar's very handsome Covent Garden production (which I saw at its premiere and is still in the repertory) is of prolonged visual tedium. After a while, it helped if you shut your eyes.

    Mozart is widely considered to be a 'directors' graveyard' as far as staging is concerned.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20572

      #17
      Originally posted by Conchis View Post

      Mozart is widely considered to be a 'directors' graveyard' as far as staging is concerned.
      Perhaps that's only a problem when they try to be too clever...

      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie
      I did see one appalling Opera North production in York, where the attention-seeking director had the characters hiding behind trees that were small hand mirrors in the shape of trees.

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #18
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Perhaps that's only a problem when they try to be too clever...
        I am generally more in favour of a HIPP approach to Mozart, and that includes the staging. I think it particularly daft when a 'modern' staging is 'accompanied' by a HIPP orchestral component.

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        • Conchis
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          • Jun 2014
          • 2396

          #19
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Perhaps that's only a problem when they try to be too clever...
          The best Mozart production I have seen was Opera North's (still current) Don Giovanni. There was plenty in it to outrage an audience (Zerlina sang Batti, Batti while being penetrated by Masetto) but in other parts it was inventive and amusing. It didn't treat the source material with paralysing reverence and that was certainly a good move.

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          • Conchis
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            • Jun 2014
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            #20
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            I am generally more in favour of a HIPP approach to Mozart, and that includes the staging. I think it particularly daft when a 'modern' staging is 'accompanied' by a HIPP orchestral component.
            When the Peter Sellers productions of the Da Ponte operas were shown on BBC2 back in 1991, someone famously wrote to Radio Times: 'I enjoy Peter Sellers' production of Don Giovanni - but why did it have such an inappropriate soundtrack?'

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11751

              #21
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              I think it’s remarkable that Beaumarchais’ play was still banned in Austria when Mozart and da Ponte decided to turn it into an opera. They had to make changes to omit some of the revolutionary ideas. It’s often shortened slightly - arias of Don Basilio and Marcellina(?) omitted. Not sure that any opera is really ‘intended’ to be funny.
              The Laurent Pelly productions of LElisir d'Amore and especially La Fille du Regiment are very funny especially the latter with Dessay and Florez at the ROH.

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              • Conchis
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                • Jun 2014
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                #22
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                The Laurent Pelly productions of LElisir d'Amore and especially La Fille du Regiment are very funny especially the latter with Dessay and Florez at the ROH.
                A pity he came such a cropper with his production of Meyerbeer's (worthless) Robert Le Diable (or 'Naughty Bob' as I insisted on calling it).

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30456

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post

                  Back to topic - the key role in the opera is, of course, Susanna (Lucia Popp in the sublime Solti recording) - discuss
                  Yes, the whole Beaumarchais plot is about the servants outwitting the aristocracy (in the person of the count) and Figaro is just a tiny bit dim.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Lordgeous
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 831

                    #24
                    Staging aside, isnt the music outstanding? Every note to me seems precious, the arias and especially the ensembles. The invention is remarkable. Mozart 'clicked' with me in my early 20s and Ive never looked back. I think Figaro still heads my top ten list of all time favourites. "All human life is there"!

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                      Staging aside, isnt the music outstanding? Every note to me seems precious, the arias and especially the ensembles. The invention is remarkable. Mozart 'clicked' with me in my early 20s and Ive never looked back. I think Figaro still heads my top ten list of all time favourites. "All human life is there"!
                      That’s about my view too (although I ‘rejected’ Mozart when I was in my 20s ). Complex plots are often the essence of comedies and silliness is part of the comedy. But there are touching moments too and I don’t like the distinction blurred.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Stanfordian
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                        OT, I wonder how many seemingly complicated plots could be reduced to a single sentence - along the lines of: "Gypsy throws wrong baby onto fire". You never know, if it catches on it might be worth a thread of its own - let's see

                        Another Verdi favourite of mine is Simon Boccanegra - now that's a tricky one.

                        Back to topic - the key role in the opera is, of course, Susanna (Lucia Popp in the sublime Solti recording) - discuss
                        When Lucia Popp died when only in her fifties the world lost a remarkable singer.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                          When Lucia Popp died when only in her fifties the world lost a remarkable singer.
                          - and Lorraine Hunt Lieberson, and Tessa Bonner ... and Ferrier only 41 ... and so many, many others (remarkable sngers or not).

                          I feel a donation to cancer research coming on.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • french frank
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                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30456

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            - and Lorraine Hunt Lieberson, and Tessa Bonner ... and Ferrier only 41 ... and so many, many others (remarkable sngers or not).
                            Arleen Auger. I still find her performance of Abe dfindung heart-rending . Sorry, I’m fed with trying to insert that missing n.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                              Staging aside, isnt the music outstanding? Every note to me seems precious, the arias and especially the ensembles. The invention is remarkable. Mozart 'clicked' with me in my early 20s and Ive never looked back. I think Figaro still heads my top ten list of all time favourites. "All human life is there"!
                              - Mozart, like Austen, didn't fully "click" with me until I was well into my twenties, but Figaro was one of the works that always appealed ... and continues to do so: every precious note of it.

                              And I also find it very funny - the Count uncovering Cherubino in Act One; the whole business around Antonio in Act Two - and unbelievably poignant and moving at the "perdono" even whilst you just know this is a contingent repentance - perhaps so moving precisely because of this. No better opera ever composed.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                #30
                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Arleen Auger.
                                Oh, gosh, yes!
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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