2016 Bayreuth Ring on Sky Arts

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  • Richard Tarleton

    #61
    Fascinating review. So far I've only dipped in, preparing to watch on a wet day. Gunther (to start with) channeling the Fonz from Happy Days, or possibly John Travolta in Grease.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 13000

      #62
      Love the use of 'interesting'.

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      • Bert Coules
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        • Nov 2010
        • 763

        #63
        These curtain calls are odd. It's strange enough that they happen at all after each act, but if they are going to take place why no solo bows, I wonder?

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        • ARBurton
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          • May 2011
          • 331

          #64
          Maybe edited out by Sky for timing reasons?

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          • Bert Coules
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            • Nov 2010
            • 763

            #65
            Possibly, I suppose, but I have the feeling not.

            People have mentioned the TV direction. The camera angles for the death of Siegfried were especially unfortunate, though again, that could have been deliberate, given the rest of the nonsense: Hagen learns that Siegfried can be killed only by a stab in the back, so naturally he whacks him over the head with a baseball bat. Or doesn't. But he conveniently dies anyway, the obliging chap.

            Ah - solo calls at last. No sign of Castorf and the rest of the production team, though.
            Last edited by Bert Coules; 31-07-16, 20:43.

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            • Bert Coules
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              • Nov 2010
              • 763

              #66
              Did I blink and miss it or did Sky really not credit any of the singers?

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 13000

                #67
                No, they didn't.
                AND
                we had no appearance of the much booed design team. Luckily for them.

                That Gotterdammerung design was an absolute travesty of meretricious, cluttered, inauthentic and deeply unhelpful claptrap.
                Thank God for decent leads and the band.

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                • ARBurton
                  Full Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 331

                  #68
                  Despite the countless flaws I'll be putting a set in the Wagner Society dvd library in due course along with the new Parsifal.

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7432

                    #69
                    Whatever the merits or flaws of the production, I would have thought that an aberrant staging such as this is not a suitable introduction for those new to the work, which Sky seemed to be assuming their transmission would be.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 13000

                      #70
                      Exactly: how the heck any incoming Wagnerian-wannabe could get any sense of the huge legend/mythology/roots culture behind Wagner's project utterly defeats me. In an age in which Game of Thrones has gone global, Tolkien Hobbitry pervasive and Harry Pottery, the depths of this productions misjudgement of where the next generation of culture vultures are likely to be eagerly looking for sustenance truly blows the mind. It was a production stuck fast in the tinselly, instant obsolescence trash of the 1950s in every way and what on earth [literally] it could speak to in our day eludes me.

                      Yes, do archive it of course, but as a production to stir the soul, ignite a lifelong passion..........erm......I think not.

                      Thank God for Kirill Petrenko, I say.

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                      • LHC
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1574

                        #71
                        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                        Exactly: how the heck any incoming Wagnerian-wannabe could get any sense of the huge legend/mythology/roots culture behind Wagner's project utterly defeats me. In an age in which Game of Thrones has gone global, Tolkien Hobbitry pervasive and Harry Pottery, the depths of this productions misjudgement of where the next generation of culture vultures are likely to be eagerly looking for sustenance truly blows the mind. It was a production stuck fast in the tinselly, instant obsolescence trash of the 1950s in every way and what on earth [literally] it could speak to in our day eludes me.

                        Yes, do archive it of course, but as a production to stir the soul, ignite a lifelong passion..........erm......I think not.

                        Thank God for Kirill Petrenko, I say.
                        Petrenko conducted the Ring last year. The performances broadcast on Sky were conducted by Marek Janowski.

                        Ironically, Janowski usually refuses offers to perform in opera houses as he hates modernist productions, and will normally only conduct operas in concert performances (when Jennifer Ann Wilson was asked to withdraw from the part of Sieglinde this year, he told her that he no longer conducts staged opera because he hates the productions).

                        I understand he agreed to conduct the ring in 2016 and 2017 because he wanted to conduct at Bayreuth, and for no other reason. I can only imagine what his views on the 'Castorf' Ring might be.
                        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                        • ARBurton
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                          • May 2011
                          • 331

                          #72
                          Mr janowski just went up in my estimation!

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 13000

                            #73
                            And mine.........sorry for lousy editing!

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                            • Bert Coules
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 763

                              #74
                              It's a shame in many ways that the Seattle Ring - which was very firmly traditional and, by all accounts, extremely successful - was never filmed. It almost happened, apparently, but fell through. And even more sadly it's never going to be revived, if reports are true.


                              Picture (c) Seattle Opera, no infringement intended

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                              • underthecountertenor
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                                • Apr 2011
                                • 1586

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
                                It's a shame in many ways that the Seattle Ring - which was very firmly traditional and, by all accounts, extremely successful - was never filmed. It almost happened, apparently, but fell through. And even more sadly it's never going to be revived, if reports are true.


                                Picture (c) Seattle Opera, no infringement intended
                                Horses (Grane etc) for courses, but that looks risibly old-fashioned to me.

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