Opera on 3 - 21.05.11 Wagner's Parsifal

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20575

    Opera on 3 - 21.05.11 Wagner's Parsifal

    17:00 – 22:00 Opera on 3

    Mark Wigglesworth conducts ENO's celebrated production of Wagner's last opera, Parsifal.

    Presented by Donald Macleod

    Mark Wigglesworth conducts ENO's highly acclaimed production of Wagner's last opera.
    The knights of the Holy Grail are in disarray. Only a blameless fool, made wise through compassion, can cure Amfortas's wound and so set them on the way to recovery. Unlikely as it seems at first, Parsifal might well be that saviour.

    Parsifal ..... Stuart Skelton (tenor)
    Amfortas ..... Iain Paterson (bass)
    Titurel ..... Andrew Greenan (bass)
    Gurnemanz ..... John Tomlinson (bass)
    Klingsor ..... Tom Fox (bass)
    Kundry ..... Jane Dutton (mezzo soprano)

    English National Opera Orchestra and Chorus
    Conductor ..... Mark Wigglesworth.
  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    I made a trip to London especially to see this, as the production had been talked up a lot. I thought John Tomlinson was incredibly wobbly (vocally) & really not up to it, so I shall probably give the broadcast a miss.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20575

      #3
      I suppose I should listen, as it's the only Wagner opera I don't really know. I have the Dover score, but no recording, which I realise is a bit odd.

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      • gurnemanz
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        I first heard Parsifal live at the Proms under Boulez in the early seventies, aged about 21, hotfoot from my own personal Kundry encounter. I was studying German and had got a bit obsessed with RW. It was done over two nights and I stood, of course, (one my own, unable to interest anyone in accompanying me to such an abstruse work). I had my little Reclam copy of the text in my hand with pencilled-in notes about leitmotivs and was utterly riveted from beginning to end.

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        • DracoM
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          • Mar 2007
          • 12993

          #5
          Recording? Try Solti/Kollo/Frick/ VPO. Solti's Act 3 alone worth the money.

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          • Chris Newman
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            • Nov 2010
            • 2100

            #6
            I remember the Boulez Proms, gurnemanz. It was just as well Parsifal was performed over two nights as the singer of your namesake, Louis Hendricx, ran out of voice on the first night. Apologies if I have mentioned that before.

            I first heard Parsifal not long before that with Reggie Goodall at the ROH. It was the night that Gurnemanz was indisposed and they dragged Gottlob Frick out of retirement and at the end he sounded fresh enough to do it all over again. Jess Thomas was Parsifal and Amy Shuard was Kundry. Kiri te Kanawa was the second Flower Maiden.

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            • DracoM
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              • Mar 2007
              • 12993

              #7
              For me, first stage Parsifal was Horenstein at ROH immediately before he died. Talvela as Gurnemanz, Helge Brilioth [I THINK] as Parsifal. Horenstein was helped to his seat, and hardly moved, conducting of the prelude seemed to be largely done by Charlie Taylor from the leader's desk, but in Act 3, Horenstein sudddenly stood.

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              • Chris Newman
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                • Nov 2010
                • 2100

                #8
                Sadly Jascha Horenstein was very ill when he forced himself to conduct Parsifal in 1973. He had suffered problems since a heart attack in Minneapolis in 1971 (nowadays a pacemaker would probably have seen him live and possibly work much longer). He was one of my favourite conductors but that Parsifal was not him at his best.

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                • Flosshilde
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #9
                  I've seen Parsifal three times on stage - at ENO many years ago (don't know who was conducting or singing), at Covent Garden - Hoffman singing Parsifal, and the latests ENO production. The first production I didn't like at all - wedges of grey cheese trundling round, with twirly bits; the second I remember chiefly for Parsifal's rather skimpy costume in Act 3 (sorry to be so shallow ), & the latest had some very good parts but was marred for my by Tomlinson's singing. The best production I've seen is Syberberg's film (again, sorry to be repetetive as I've enthused over this on the old boards). I would suggest that if you've not seen Parsifal this is an excellent one to see.

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                  • umslopogaas
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1977

                    #10
                    I have only ever seen Parsifal live once, at the opera house in Brussels. However, I have several recordings: on LP, Knappertsbusch live in mono from Bayreuth 1951 and live in stereo from Bayreuth in 1961, and Solti; on CD, Karajan. The Rough Guide To Opera, which I normally find quite reliable, seems to have got itself into a bit of a tangle. It dismisses Karajan and Solti: "... Karajan's movingly conducted account for [DG] is let down by weak casting; the reverse is the problem with Solti ..." I cant see anything weak in the singing on Karajan, and how can Solti be let down by singing that is the reverse of weak? Crazy. The ones they like are the two Knappertsbusch versions mentioned above and Karajan (not the DG one, another on RCA), Barenboim and a vintage one by Muck (compiled from four performances in 1913, 1927, 1927 and 1928).

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                    • Mandryka

                      #11
                      I have seen the extant ENO and ROH productions, neither of which I like, though the ROH one - an import from Spain - is so hopelessly unimaginative it would work better as a concert version.

                      For recordings, I would make Solti and (DG) Karajan my first port of call, with Knappertsbusch '51 bringing up the rear.

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                      • gradus
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        I came to the piece throught the Boulez recording and have heard several conductors live inc Horst Stein at Bayreuth in the seventies. Unsurprisingly Parsifal in the Festspielhaus live is pretty hard to beat and the whole thing flew by in about five minutes so it seemed.

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                        • Bert Coules
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 763

                          #13
                          Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                          The Rough Guide To Opera... dismisses Karajan and Solti: "... Karajan's movingly conducted account for [DG] is let down by weak casting; the reverse is the problem with Solti ..." I can't see anything weak in the singing on Karajan, and how can Solti be let down by singing that is the reverse of weak?
                          I think the Rough Guide is saying that the Solti set has strong casting but is let down by the conducting - the exact opposite of their view of the Karajan.

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                          • Flosshilde
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            As well as the Syberberg DVD, I have the Knappertsbusch 1951 Bayreuth (on Naxos - an absolute bargain), which is splendid, & Thielmann's with Domingo at the Vienna State Opera (haven't listened to this enough to be able to comment on it), plus Boulez on audio cassettes.

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                            • ostuni
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 551

                              #15
                              I saw the ENO Parsifal, and am looking forward to hearing how it sounds. I was much more impressed by Tomlinson than was Flosshilde: the stunningly clear diction and the expressive stage presence more than made up for the occasional wobble, for me. And Gurnemanz is supposed to be old!

                              My favourite recorded performance is Kubelik, with Kurt Moll's Gurnemanz, James King's Parsifal, and Yvonne Minton's Kundry equally strong. The 51 Kna has an absolutely stunning Kundry from Martha Modl, and the young Windgassen impressive as Parsifal (not 100% accurate in notes or rhythms...), but some shockingly poor orchestral playing in places.

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