ENO Mastersingers - cultural crime in prospect?

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  • Prommer
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1275

    ENO Mastersingers - cultural crime in prospect?

    Would someone please put me straight if I am wrong but with the current run extending to 10th March, I fear there is still no broadcast on radio or television in prospect? This would be a tragedy. The Richard Jones production definitely deserves to be preserved as does the company effort as a whole, especially at a time when ENO needs to show to the world what it is doing.

    We might need to mount a campaign here and now...!
  • slarty

    #2
    I am hoping that the Beeb will have recorded it for broadcast at a later date, as it would be a tremendously long evening live.

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    • agingjb
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 156

      #3
      Surely any production, opera or theatre, supported to any extent by an Arts Council grant should be recorded.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20578

        #4
        Originally posted by slarty View Post
        I am hoping that the Beeb will have recorded it for broadcast at a later date, as it would be a tremendously long evening live.
        It would be just as long if recorded, apart from the 2 intervals. Just think - Radio 3 for 5 hours and no texts, tweets or e-mails.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30652

          #5
          Originally posted by Prommer View Post
          We might need to mount a campaign here and now...!
          I have emailed the BBC Director of Music (Bob Shennan) to ask whether a broadcast is in prospect, and copied Alan Davey in.

          (Bob Shennan coordinates music broadcasts across radio and television)
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Stanley Stewart
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1071

            #6
            Thank you, ff.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30652

              #7
              Originally posted by Stanley Stewart View Post
              Thank you, ff.
              No ask, no get. Even if ask, not necessarily get but ... :-)
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18061

                #8
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                It would be just as long if recorded, apart from the 2 intervals. Just think - Radio 3 for 5 hours and no texts, tweets or e-mails.
                Isn't the original version of Rienzi longer?

                The Mastersingers performance could be a challenge, as even with the early start, it might still be a rush to get to the last train.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30652

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Isn't the original version of Rienzi longer?

                  The Mastersingers performance could be a challenge, as even with the early start, it might still be a rush to get to the last train.
                  Though for Radio 3, I can't see that it would be more of a 'challenge' than 144 hours of 'every note that Mozart wrote' or 240 hours of Bach ... But perhaps the day-long programmes on Berlioz and Janáček are a better comparison. As far as television is concerned, we know BBC Two fell by the wayside years ago as a provider of cultural quality - but surely fans could give up their regular fix of upmarket detective thrillers to fit in an opera one evening?
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Stanley Stewart
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1071

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    No ask, no get. Even if ask, not necessarily get but ... :-)
                    You're too modest, ff! I've just been browsing Arnold Goodman's 1993 memoirs, 'Tell Them I'm On My Way', as a booster to a pipe-dream in my autumnal years. Remember the turmoil of the 70s; high inflation, industrial unrest and IRA bomb alerts which traumatised us nationally? We now face the prospect of a few General Elections in quick succession but, as always, we'll muddle-through to renewed prosperity.

                    My dream - a magnificent obsession? - is to see the end of a now moribund Coliseum Theatre, albeit with tears after several decades of sheer joy at 'the people's theatre', and, with the zeitgeist of renewed prosperity - 'twill come'... the readiness is all' - the construction of an extended Arts City - as a continuation of our National Galleries. in the block from a demolished Garrick Theatre, Charing X Rd, through to the Duke of Yorks Theatre, St Martin's Lane; all to include an opera house and a couple of concert halls. An ideal site for destinations north, south, east and west! Perhaps the Goodall Theatre, or the Harewood Concert Hall et al. All we now need is the will to see it through backed by the equivalents of Goodman, Jennie Lee, Stephen Arlen, George Harewood, with, say, the feisty spirit and common sense which Mary Stocks used to bring to Any Questions!

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                    • slarty

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      It would be just as long if recorded, apart from the 2 intervals. Just think - Radio 3 for 5 hours and no texts, tweets or e-mails.
                      Yes indeed, but Wagner intervals tend to be a bit longer than normal, the performances starting early while possible listeners are still on their way home from work.
                      It was certainly so for Reggie's Mastersinger at the Coloseum with performances starting at 4.30PM (Intervals of 30 and 45m) It stayed the same when Mackerras took over.
                      Do the present performances begin as early as that?

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by slarty View Post
                        Do the present performances begin as early as that?
                        5pm - 3pm on Saturdays.

                        But a recorded/filmed version can be broadcast on any day at any time - in theory.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25251

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          5pm - 3pm on Saturdays.

                          But a recorded/filmed version can be broadcast on any day at any time - in theory.
                          ..depending on news bulletin requirements.......

                          Edit: could items like this not go out on 5 live extra's channel, when not in use, for instance?
                          or does it get used for something else?
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                          • LHC
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1576

                            #14
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Though for Radio 3, I can't see that it would be more of a 'challenge' than 144 hours of 'every note that Mozart wrote' or 240 hours of Bach ... But perhaps the day-long programmes on Berlioz and Janáček are a better comparison. As far as television is concerned, we know BBC Two fell by the wayside years ago as a provider of cultural quality - but surely fans could give up their regular fix of upmarket detective thrillers to fit in an opera one evening?
                            BBC TV appears to have given up completely on opera now. The last opera shown by the BBC was last year's Glyndebourne production of Der Rosenkavalier, which was only available on line. There was no opera shown on TV over Christmas (in previous years the BBC have shown their only opera of the year over Christmas). Even though the BBC have announced 2015 as 'the year of song and dance', there are no plans to show any complete operas on TV. The programmes that have been announced are:

                            A Classical Voice season on BBC Two, BBC Four and BBC Radio 3 in summer (June) includes the return of BBC Cardiff Singer of the World; new commissions on BBC Two including La Traviata & The Women Of London (Working Title), and The Duke and the Composer: Monteverdi in Mantua; and a three-part BBC Four series on the classical voice, The Golden Age of Singing, presented by Music Director of the Royal Opera, Sir Antonio Pappano.
                            It appears that the BBCTV controllers are content to squeeze the odd hour-long documentary into their schedules, but a complete opera (and especially Meistersingers) would be far too long.
                            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18061

                              #15
                              Wolf Hall has been split into 6 manageable sections. Would this perhaps also work for the Mastersingers?

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