Monteverdi Choir 50th Anniversary Concert, 5th March, 19:45

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  • amcluesent
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    • Sep 2011
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    Monteverdi Choir 50th Anniversary Concert, 5th March, 19:45

    Looking forward to this, historically informed performance is always welcome on Radio 3
  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    #2
    Live from King's College, Cambridge
    Anyone listening? JEG’s talking to Martin Handley now. The music is about to start!!


    You’ve got in first!

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    • Old Grumpy
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      • Jan 2011
      • 3652

      #3
      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
      Live from King's College, Cambridge
      Anyone listening?
      Yep.

      Brilliant!

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      • Padraig
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        • Feb 2013
        • 4251

        #4
        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
        Live from King's College, Cambridge
        Anyone listening? JEG’s talking to Martin Handley now. The music is about to start!!


        You’ve got in first!
        Listening doversoul.
        Also, PM received. Will do.

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        • DracoM
          Host
          • Mar 2007
          • 12993

          #5
          One of my all time favourite pieces
          BUT
          to my ears, it sounds wildly, wilfully self-indulgent. And actually, very dated.

          Probably you have to be there. In KCC's acoustic, I'd love to know from anyone there how much of the tiny filigree in pretty well every phrase would come across as anything but a blur?

          Nicholas Mulroy worth the entrance money.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #6
            It is easy to imagine how the performance of this work must have sounded/felt to the audience 50 years ago. It maybe that we have been spoilt by too many CDs but to me, this sounds like an English church choir making a good attempt at a Monteverdi. And it may be my radio but the singing sounds rather muffled. Ah well. Historical interest…

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Sorry. I gave up and am spinning:



              instead.

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              • doversoul1
                Ex Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7132

                #8
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                Sorry. I gave up and am spinning:



                instead.
                same here.

                Versión de IL VESPRO DELLA BEATA VERGINE de Claudio Monteverdi por L'ARGGIATA, dirigida por Chrisina Pluhar.

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                • edashtav
                  Full Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3672

                  #9
                  Jeggers becomes Jaggers

                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  One of my all time favourite pieces
                  BUT
                  to my ears, it sounds wildly, wilfully self-indulgent. And actually, very dated.

                  Probably you have to be there. In KCC's acoustic, I'd love to know from anyone there how much of the tiny filigree in pretty well every phrase would come across as anything but a blur?

                  Nicholas Mulroy worth the entrance money.
                  Spot on, DracoM, especially your line that I've emboldened. A performance with some good elements but coarsened by over-familiarity: the smooth was judged insufficiently exciting and contrasts and accents were made larger than life.

                  Less is more.
                  Last edited by edashtav; 06-03-14, 00:33. Reason: sloppy

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                  • gamba
                    Late member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 575

                    #10
                    I'll stay with Concerto Italiano & Rinaldo Alessandrini for a CD performance.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5807

                      #11
                      I enjoyed this, and it seemed as much a celebration of JEG's 1964 pioneering as of the piece itself. I have his St Mark's recording and don't know others. I listened to a bit of the L'Arpeggiata via Doversoul's link before it stopped abruptly and wouldn't restart: very different from what I'm familiar with. Any recommendations for a different take from JEG's?

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                      • doversoul1
                        Ex Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7132

                        #12
                        This is by Harnoncourt (not meant to be a recommendation, as I've just found it)
                        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                        I know listening to snippets are not the same but you can have some ideas.


                        Were any of the Forum members at the original performance? What was it that made it so extraordinary?

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                        • kernelbogey
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5807

                          #13
                          Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                          Were any of the Forum members at the original performance? What was it that made it so extraordinary?
                          The implication of JEG's pre-concert interview with Martin Handley was that JEG had almost re-discovered the piece (although he also acknowledged IIRC Thurston Dart telling him where he could find a microfilm of the MS). I believe that Monteverdi was, indeed, little known at the time - but other board members may have a different perspective on that period.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            JEG may have "almost re-discovered" the Vespers, but its first British performance had been given at Morley College in the 1940s in a performance conducted by Michael Tippett (who had also led performances of Monteverdi madrigals with the choir). Tippett acknowledged his debt to the pioneering recordings of Monteverdi madrigals made in the 1930s conducted by Nadia Boulanger - who was one of JEG's teachers.
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • DracoM
                              Host
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12993

                              #15
                              And let us not forget Dennis Stevens?

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