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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    Brahms/Bruckner/LPO/Jurowski/rfh/26/02/14/19:30 r3 live

    The world is too much with me this week, but I'll try to crash into the chair coffee in hand at seventwentynineandthreequarters for this one...

    Brahms Double Concerto
    Bruckner Symphony No.2 (Edition...unspecified...)

    Julia Fischer/Daniel Muller-Schott/London Philharmonic/Jurowski/
  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    #2
    No-one bothering tonight?
    Bruckner 2 about to start, original version I think... Brahms seemed outstanding, but incipient mental exhaustion prevented my true appreciation...
    coffee & brandy fortified, hope to do better with part two...

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      Was at school, at orchestra rehearsal this evening.
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7747

        #4
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        No-one bothering tonight?
        Bruckner 2 about to start, original version I think... Brahms seemed outstanding, but incipient mental exhaustion prevented my true appreciation...
        coffee & brandy fortified, hope to do better with part two...
        They rebroadcast these concerts on this side of the pond, but during my working hours. I play it in the background but my staff keeps changing the radio station...

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26575

          #5
          Only heard the Bruckner.... what a magnificent, surprising, fascinating performance - and work!

          The slow movement glorious (great solo horn playing near the end) and the last movement electrifying - and one passage involving a staccato conversation between clarinets that sounded as if Bruckner had (with Elliott Carter-like longevity) continued producing music into the 1930s, extraordinary random-sounding syncopations. (I had a similar feeling to that when I went to hear Bruckner's 1st with the same forces - was this early music, or some very late work of his, just discovered? It seemed to me that the sense of novelty and experimentation could have belonged to either end of a career).

          Kicking myself I didn't go tonight!
          Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 27-02-14, 06:51.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25231

            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            Only heard the Bruckner.... what a magnificent, surprising, fascinating performance - and work!

            The slow movement glorious (great solo horn playing near the end) and the last movement electrifying - and one passage that sounded as if Bruckner had (with Elliott Carter-like longevity) continued producing music into the 1930s, extraordinary random-sounding syncopations. (I had a similar feeling to that when I went to hear Bruckner's 1st with the same forces - was this early music, or some very late work of his, just discovered? It seemed to me that the sense of novelty and experimentation could have belonged to either end of a career).



            Kicking myself I didn't go tonight!
            great thoughts Cals. Phone went, so I missed it, but I player is calling for tomorrow.

            you London types are spoiled for choice....
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12329

              #7
              What is it about the Bruckner 2 that so defeats me? I can relate perfectly to what Caliban says of the piece but the ideas just will not lift off the page for me. I tried again tonight (the original 1972 version) but concentration lapsed during the slow movement (here placed third).

              I love all of the Bruckner symphonies more than life itself and my lack of engagement with the Second is maddening.

              Great sound coming through Freeview. Were the engineers taking the LPO feed again? It certainly sounded like it.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26575

                #8
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                Bruckner Symphony No.2 (Edition...unspecified...)
                It was the original 1872 score, jayne
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  What is it about the Bruckner 2 that so defeats me? I can relate perfectly to what Caliban says of the piece but the ideas just will not lift off the page for me. I tried again tonight (the original 1972 version) but concentration lapsed during the slow movement (here placed third).

                  I love all of the Bruckner symphonies more than life itself and my lack of engagement with the Second is maddening.

                  Great sound coming through Freeview. Were the engineers taking the LPO feed again? It certainly sounded like it.
                  Try the Tintner recording. That is what turned the trick for me, after failing to connect with Jochum and Karajan.

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                  • edashtav
                    Full Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 3672

                    #10
                    Out at a lecture this evening. These positive comments mean that I shall be eager to hear both works (personal favourites of mine) on the iPlayer. Just a shame that today is full of rehearsals...
                    And the 1872 version of the AB - what a plus!

                    Full marks to Jurowski, the LPO and... to R.3 for broadcasting this event.
                    Last edited by edashtav; 27-02-14, 14:18.

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                    • amateur51

                      #11
                      i was in the RFH last evening for this tremendous concert as part of a late birthday treat. We were way up in the £9 seats in the Balcony, which was fine, but we slipped down a good few rows to be in the second row of the Balcony proper for the Bruckner and it was completely involving.

                      The interplay between the soloists and between the soloists and the orchestra in the Brahms was remarkable and I feel that much credit must go to Jurowski who was very alert to the demands of the score's balances. He seemsd to have become even more directorial in his conducting style of late, being to my eyes (and ears) far clearer in what he wants, conducting almost as a reminnder of the hard work that went on in rehearsal. Julia Fischer and Daniel Muller-Schott, were treated to a royally appreciative reception after the performance and gave us a remarkable and lengthy encore of Johan Halvorsen's Passacaglia after Handel's Harpsichord Suite No 7, clearly announced by DM-S. The audience's reception was even more enthusiastic than it had been for the concerto and the orchestra joined in. It's worth going on to the iplayer for this alone. I do hope that the LPO will release the entire concert for posterity.

                      After the interval, Jurowski conducted a fiendishly detailed account of the original version of Bruckner symphony no 2. I'm not sure that I've heard this version before. All departments played their hearts out once again to a clearly laid-out plan from Jurowski. His signalling of the all-important pauses was exemplary and the sound of the orchestera in full cry was magnificent. I do hope that the broadcast sound caught this. It's an awkward piece to have in your head the next day as an earworm

                      If LPO/Jurowski plan to play more Bruckner then the concerts will be straight into my diary. I hope that the tickets sell better - there were great swathes of the Balcomy that were empty - is early Bruckner that much of a minority interest? On this evidence it doesn't deserve to be when played by this team.
                      Last edited by Guest; 27-02-14, 11:06. Reason: multiple trypos

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26575

                        #12
                        Cor you kept that under your jumper ams! Lucky you.

                        Seeing as he did No 1 last season, I think there is a 'traversal' (as Andrew McGregor would say) afoot

                        Still kicking myself I missed going to this
                        Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 27-02-14, 11:50.
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • mercia
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8920

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          We were way up in the £9 seats in the Balcony, which was fine, but we slipped down a good few rows to be in the second row of the Balcony proper for the Bruckner
                          I tried that once in a near empty balcony and was told off in no uncertain terms by the staff ....... and made to move back

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                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            I tried that once in a near empty balcony and was told off in no uncertain terms by the staff ....... and made to move back
                            This has happened to me too mercs but I think perhaps the newer generation of younger stewards are less into public persecution than those of old. they're firm but polite when deakling with people who drape their outergarments over the balcony rail, f'ristance.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              This has happened to me too mercs but I think perhaps the newer generation of younger stewards are less into public persecution than those of old. they're firm but polite when deakling with people who drape their outergarments over the balcony rail, f'ristance.
                              That's odd - they keep a considerable distance from those who so drape their undergarments.


                              I'M TOLD!


                              (Brilliant post #11, by the way! )
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