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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30593

    #46
    Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
    But great to play!!
    I think there may be a disconnect [OED from 1982] between what some people like to perform and others like to listen to.

    I just find Troldhaugen too jolly.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • VodkaDilc

      #47
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      I think there may be a disconnect [OED from 1982] between what some people like to perform and others like to listen to.

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      To by mind a good example is the piano duet repertoire. I can't think of many I'd willingly listen to - but there are few better ways to spend a winter's afternoon than playing them.

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      • Don Petter

        #48
        Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
        To by mind a good example is the piano duet repertoire. I can't think of many I'd willingly listen to - but there are few better ways to spend a winter's afternoon than playing them.
        I think that might be very true with respect to arrangements. However I do think there are some original compositions which can please both camps - Milhaud's Scaramouche comes to mind.

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16123

          #49
          Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
          I think that might be very true with respect to arrangements. However I do think there are some original compositions which can please both camps - Milhaud's Scaramouche comes to mind.
          Not quite teeth on edge - at least not yet - but someone ysterday sent me links to Rachmaninov's first piano concerto (1917 revised version) and various other works of his including Symphonic Dances; all pieces that I love and have done for years but, in this case, the orchestral material was all transcribed for organ. The concerto did at least sound intriguing for a few minutes and both players were doing well with it, but the lack of orchestral subtlety already present even in that early and less than mature (yet delightful) piece soon persuaded me to turn it off....

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37914

            #50
            Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
            I think that might be very true with respect to arrangements. However I do think there are some original compositions which can please both camps - Milhaud's Scaramouche comes to mind.
            But, the three dances from Petrushka must surely count among the most exciting piano duet arangements!

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #51
              Originally posted by jean View Post
              Great fun both to perform and to listen to - and I can't hear the politics in the music
              Indeed. Whether it's the ground-breaking music of someone like Helmut Lachenmann, or quasi-pastiche of likes Burana, it matters not a jot about the politics!

              Here's a song for ya!.................

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30593

                #52
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                But, the three dances from Petrushka must surely count among the most exciting piano duet arangements!
                The Rite of Spring?
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  Indeed. Whether it's the ground-breaking music of someone like Helmut Lachenmann, or quasi-pastiche of likes Burana, it matters not a jot about the politics!

                  Here's a song for ya!.................

                  Ah, yes - with the utterly wonderful Sarah Leonard!...

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                  • Lento
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 646

                    #54
                    A clarinettist friend of mine, now sadly departed, once performed "S-on-the Rock" and got hopelessly lost: he kept "coming in" at the wrong times, but the resulting "arrangement" was quite refreshing in an avant garde sort of a way - a real shot in the arm!

                    (Sorry about "S-on-the-Rock", by the way - sounds like something seabirds do).

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                    • Prommer
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1275

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      I remember once borrowing a copy of it from a friend when all I knew of it was the Old Spice theme tune. It was an HMV Greensleeves record with Fruhbeck de Burgos which I understand is a renowned recording and even the sleeve note writer evidently didn't like its motor rhythms with their jackboots and tanks on the move !

                      I have always disliked it - once foolish enough to be persuaded to go to a concert with David Atherton conducting it on HK in the 1990s - never again I swore after that .

                      I am surprised Reggie Goodall didn't take it up - right up his street .
                      What a daft non-sequitur... by this logic RG would often have tried to spring the Horst Wessel song on us, etc etc. Really...

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11828

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Prommer View Post
                        What a daft non-sequitur... by this logic RG would often have tried to spring the Horst Wessel song on us, etc etc. Really...
                        Reginald Goodall was a fascist. Orff's music has fascist overtones and his betrayal of his friends and wartime conduct was reprehensible in the extreme. It is a piece to appeal to Goodall's sentiments if not his musical tastes .

                        On the other hand perhaps it would not have been up Goodall's street after all - he would probably have conducted it at such a slow tempo that the jackboots and tanks would have ground to a halt .

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Prommer View Post
                          What a daft non-sequitur... by this logic RG would often have tried to spring the Horst Wessel song on us, etc etc. Really...
                          Don't take this seriously, it's only a good-natured wind up. But the thought of Reggie doing Burana is mouth-watering! Just imagine how well-coached the singers would be

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Orff's music has fascist overtones...
                            Can someone please explain to me how I can recognise these?

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #59
                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              Can someone please explain to me how I can recognise these?
                              Whenever Burana is played on Network East, the trains run on time.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                Whenever Burana is played on Network East, the trains run on time.
                                The rice is included ?

                                oh, fortuna, misheard, lyrics, animated, salsa, cookies, windmill, animation, funny, Carmina, Burana, Orff, amazing, awesome, lol, famishedmammal, famished, mammal


                                (sorry about this again but wonderful stuff )

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