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  • amateur51

    #76
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    Worth watching?


    Read the preceding posts, Bbm

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12331

      #77
      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
      Worth watching?


      Why not watch the BBC4 repeat this evening and make your own mind up? Take no notice of us lot!
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #78
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post


        Why not watch the BBC4 repeat this evening and make your own mind up? Take no notice of us lot!
        Let us know what you make of the Vivienne Westwood costumes and the choreography, BBM . Like Sir Velo I loved Tales from the Vienna Woods (and, like Roehre, the accompanying film) and wish they'd do it more often. A lot of the music does tend to go in one ear and out the other for me - I can't get away from the feeling that it's the musical equivalent of guzzling an entire box of fondant chocolates in one go (fattening, no roughage, bad for the teeth) but hugely enjoyable nevertheless. I'm now listening to some lute music as a sort of musical antacid

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20575

          #79
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          Well, quite possibly. Whatever was behind that decision I so wish they hadn't and shown it as broadcast live. I'm afraid my video recording of that 1987 concert (my second ever video recording!) has long gone and if anyone has one transferred to DVD I'd very much appreciate a copy.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #80
            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            Well, quite possibly. Whatever was behind that decision I so wish they hadn't and shown it as broadcast live. I'm afraid my video recording of that 1987 concert (my second ever video recording!) has long gone and if anyone has one transferred to DVD I'd very much appreciate a copy.
            I presume the official DVD/Video release also edited out the microphone problems when Herbie made his speech "What we all want today is peace, peace, and again peace" - the look on his face when the mic initially gave up on him suggested that the technician in charge might just have been excepted!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #81
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              Worth watching?
              I'd start about 18' in to the BBC2 coverage this morning for the zither solo and ensuing rather lovely music; then skip to about 34' in for the Richard Strauss (although the principal horn rather muffed the end of his first solo )... and then skip to 'Dynamiden' (starts about 57' minutes in) which as Petrushka says above is pretty classic stuff and fascinating for the Rosenkavalier origins (and also the opening sounds to me where RS got bits of Alpensinfonie from....).

              The sight gags of Barenboim making a nuisance of himself wandering / mincing / marching among the band shaking hands (amusing when the odd player pretended to refuse) during Radetzky were fun.... (wrong-footing the burbling Trelawny as a bonus )

              Avoid the dancers !!!
              Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 01-01-14, 15:49.
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12331

                #82
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                ... miserable/smug-looking rich Austrians in the audience
                It's people from all over the world these days. I'll be logging on to the VPO website tomorrow to have my traditional attempt to get into this concert. Will find the money from somewhere

                In answer to ER earlier: I've been to a VPO concert in the Musikverein (Mahler 3 VPO/Bychkov 2008) and it's a fabulous hall with stunning acoustics. Mind, as Petroc mentioned this morning the seats aren't very good and I found they were too close together. I sat there until the hall emptied and just let the splendour of it wash over me.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • amateur51

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                  Avoid the dancers !!!
                  Sound advice

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26575

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    It's people from all over the world these days. I'll be logging on to the VPO website tomorrow to have my traditional attempt to get into this concert. Will find the money from somewhere
                    Yes I edited out that comment.... Early in the televised bit of the concert, the punters in the expensive seats looked uniformly uninspired and somewhat repellent. They cheered up later...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • amateur51

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Yes I edited out that comment.... Early in the televised bit of the concert, the punters in the expensive seats looked uniformly uninspired and somewhat repellent. They cheered up later...
                      Probably wind ... leastways it is when babes look like that

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                      • RichardWagner

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        I'd start about 18' in to the BBC2 coverage this morning for the zither solo and ensuing rather lovely music; then skip to about 34' in for the Richard Strauss (although the principal horn rather muffed the end of his first solo )... and then skip to 'Dynamiden' (starts about 57' minutes in) which as Petrushka says above is pretty classic stuff and fascinating for the Rosenkavalier origins (and also the opening sounds to me where RS got bits of Alpensinfonie from....).

                        The sight gags of Barenboim making a nuisance of himself wandering / mincing / marching among the band shaking hands (amusing when the odd player pretended to refuse) during Radetzky were fun.... (wrong-footing the burbling Trelawny as a bonus )

                        Avoid the dancers !!!
                        Ignore the above, watch the whole caboodle and make up your own mind!!!!

                        And for once I actually enjoyed watching the dancers- I thought VW's costumes were bonkers but fun, and the choreography was inspired in places. And also this year we learned that VPO horn players are human after all....

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26575

                          #87
                          Originally posted by RichardWagner View Post
                          Ignore the above, watch the whole caboodle and make up your own mind!!!!
                          He did ask!

                          The 'make your own mind up' guidance had already been given. I was merely providing an alternative guide, as Bbm appeared to require a steer.

                          Welcome and Happy New Year, by the way!
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Roehre

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
                            One thing about the ballet has always puzzled me. If the dancing is pre-recorded, how do they manage to keep exactly in time with the live music?
                            they weren't. The Pizzicati-polka nearly was, but there there is essentially only one basis-tempo. The waltz, especially the Dynamiden, wasn't exactly in time, as there Barenboim couldn't resist some rubato.
                            The live duo at the end obviously was.

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              #89
                              Originally posted by RichardWagner View Post
                              Ignore the above, watch the whole caboodle and make up your own mind!!!!

                              And for once I actually enjoyed watching the dancers- I thought VW's costumes were bonkers but fun, and the choreography was inspired in places. And also this year we learned that VPO horn players are human after all....
                              Sound advice, RW. And welcome! Must have missed your first post. There are clearly, erm, two schools of thought about the ballet, this year's offering had attitude!

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                              • Roehre

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                Josef Strauss's Dynamiden must surely be one of the greatest waltzes ever penned, simply tremendous. It has all the melodic invention, romantic passion and wistful melancholy one could wish. It's a masterpiece of the genre and deserves a place in anyone's list of the greatest. ...
                                fully agree (and Richard Strauss obviously as well ). IMO a "better" waltz than the Danube
                                Last edited by Guest; 01-01-14, 17:35. Reason: typos

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