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The finale of the Choral is , in my opinion, very much dependent on the quality of the singers and chorus but I too find it very inspiring .
All music requires fine performers but nothing seems to me to be more performer dependent than Bruckner - in some hands it sounds like interminable dross in others like a vision of heaven .
I've always found Beethoven 9 to be the music to listen to when at a low ebb. 70 minutes with a CD and a miniature score is the best way to come to terms with life and to lift the spirits.
And I really don't mind the slow movement being slow; it is in many of the finest interpretations, e.g. Furtwängler.
All Classical Cross Over, especially the artists concerned, Katherine Jenkins, Russell Watson etc etc....................
Perhaps I got the jist of this thread wrong. I perceived it to mean what music displays anger and can set up reciprocal emotions in the listener.
Anyhoo: the Walton First/first is a stunner of unalloyed anger.
And I'd completely agree with you on the crossover artists!
I've always found Beethoven 9 to be the music to listen to when at a low ebb. 70 minutes with a CD and a miniature score is the best way to come to terms with life and to lift the spirits.
And I really don't mind the slow movement being slow; it is in many of the finest interpretations, e.g. Furtwängler.
What exactly is it about the fact that many of BB's operas contain gay relationships that makes you angry? Surely a relationship is a relationship - why is the sex of the protagonists such an issue? It's no different from the fact that Otello has a black character, Carmen is a gypsy, M Butterfly is Japanese.... etc. Gay storylines have an equal right to exist in opera as any other storyline.
It's really the sort of view I would have imagined only from someone of homophobic tendencies.... and not a poster on here.
Last edited by visualnickmos; 01-03-11, 21:34.
Reason: typo
It's really the sort of view I would have imagined only from someone of homophobic tendencies.... and not a poster on here.
You did used to post on thbe BBC boards, didn't you? I know some of the more - shall we say, Daily Mail-ish, posters haven't migrated, but I don't think this forum is immune to such sentiments.
QUOTE=tsuji-giri;35821]All Musicals!
They are the ultimate prostitution of musical art (in my view!)[/QUOTE]
I would rather have George Gershwin, Rodgers and Hammerstein/Hart, Guys and Dolls or West Side Story than cross-over.
Once again I have to say the worst piece of "classical" music which makes me scream and dive for the ear-muffs is by a favourite composer of mine: Gustav Holst's "Beni Mora" is pigs' swill. I have lost count of how many times the same phrase from Grieg's Piano Concerto is played over and over again. The man was a genius. How could he not see this was tosh?
Once again I have to say the worst piece of "classical" music which makes me scream and dive for the ear-muffs is by a favourite composer of mine: Gustav Holst's "Beni Mora" is pigs' swill. I have lost count of how many times the same phrase from Grieg's Piano Concerto is played over and over again. The man was a genius. How could he not see this was tosh? [/QUOTE]
In that case Grieg's Piano Concerto must have travelled to Algeria and have been 'borrowed' by street musicians there! I believe the phrase in question was suggested by a street musician in Algeria who kept playing the same phrase throughout the night close to where Holst was staying.
“Shostakovich's symphonies have a similar effect on me: if I listen to them while reading about the atrocities committed by Russia's communist rulers, my blood really starts to boil. “
Any others?
I think you find that Shostakovich wouldn’t have agreed with those atrocities!
What makes me angry? Radio 1! It’s the worst station in the world, even worse than World music.
It got so bad in the café once with radio 1 at full volume that I nearly did a Peter Maxwell Davies!!
And when you are in a pub and they play Queen. AGAIN!!!!!
Once again I have to say the worst piece of "classical" music which makes me scream and dive for the ear-muffs is by a favourite composer of mine: Gustav Holst's "Beni Mora" is pigs' swill. I have lost count of how many times the same phrase from Grieg's Piano Concerto is played over and over again. The man was a genius. How could he not see this was tosh?
In that case Grieg's Piano Concerto must have travelled to Algeria and have been 'borrowed' by street musicians there! I believe the phrase in question was suggested by a street musician in Algeria who kept playing the same phrase throughout the night close to where Holst was staying.[/QUOTE]
Chris, think of the caravans crossing the desert. We have been here before. Remember? saly
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