BBCPhil/Yutaka Sado/WALTON SYMPHONY NO.1 ETC/BRIDGEWATER HALL LIVE 16/11/13/R319:30hr

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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    BBCPhil/Yutaka Sado/WALTON SYMPHONY NO.1 ETC/BRIDGEWATER HALL LIVE 16/11/13/R319:30hr

    Live Walton firsts aren't thick on the ground, after an exhausting week hope to make part 2 at least... Thunderbirds Suite is intriguing though...

    Details....
  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    Live Walton firsts aren't thick on the ground, after an exhausting week hope to make part 2 at least... Thunderbirds Suite is intriguing though...

    Details....
    http://bbc.co.uk/orchestras/events/1446
    Hiya JLW,

    I'm off to the BBC Phil concert at the Bridgewater tonight and particularly looking forward to the Walton. The Thunderbirds Suite is a late addition to the original programme. Not my cup of tea really but worse things have happened at sea. I’ve heard Yutaka Sado conduct the BBC Phil before and did a great job with Dvořák’s Symphony No.9 in E minor ‘From the New World’.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      There's no need to shout.

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      • Beef Oven!
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        • Sep 2013
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        #4
        Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
        The Thunderbirds Suite is a late addition to the original programme. Not my cup of tea really but worse things have happened at sea.
        Know what you mean but like anything, if approached with an open mind and an oblivion to maritime disasters.................who knows?

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          Know what you mean but like anything, if approached with an open mind and an oblivion to maritime disasters.................who knows?
          Perhaps The thunderbirds Suite has been included with a Tracey of irony. I'm sure we all have the Brains to give it a chance.


          Walton 1 is FAB .
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • amateur51

            #6
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            Perhaps The thunderbirds Suite has been included with a Tracey of irony. I'm sure we all have the Brains to give it a chance.


            Walton 1 is FAB .
            An examople of Virgil Reality?

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              An examople of Virgil Reality?
              GO!





              PS will you be able to see the strings...???
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • teamsaint
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                An examople of Virgil Reality?


                I think he should get his parka.......
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Gosh, that was something of a curiosity.

                  We didn't get much info on what the Thunderbirds Suite consists of. What we heard seemed over arranged: more Black than Gray maybe ? Quite enjoyed it quand meme.
                  Last edited by Alison; 16-11-13, 20:04.

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                  • jayne lee wilson
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                    • Jul 2011
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                    #10
                    Having chuckled all through the Thunderbirds Suite (and craving rather more..), I was utterly disarmed by the seductively lovely sound of the Chausson and Berlioz items, gorgeously wafted into life by an idiomatically French-sounding orchestra and a soloist, (Sayaka Shoji) displaying marvellous dynamic and colouristic subtlety. Beautifully sung out but with great rhythmic poise and accuracy too. Many famous recordings exist of the Chausson Poeme but not many will sound better than this one, here in Manchester tonight.

                    I could have done with something less T'nT'd than Dukas' old magician, but this was knocked off with brilliance and panache.
                    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 16-11-13, 20:47.

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                    • Alison
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                      #11
                      A lovely programme as it turned out. The Walton really quite impressive even if I was wondering what a Dudamel would make of it.

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                      • Simon B
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        Indeed, an enjoyable evening in the hall (rather sparsely populated it must be said) given what looked a rather random programme on paper.

                        Pretty impressive Walton, though the vanishing BBCPO trumpet section was conspicuous by its absence again leaving all the work to deps lacking the last ounce of assurance. (Edit: I stand corrected, several vacancies have now been filled. I'm probably still nostalgic for the days when the Phil's brass section would pin you to your seat at 100 paces when the moment called for it!).

                        There wasn't quite enough malice in the first three movements for me, but then there never is... Predictably brilliant timps though!
                        Last edited by Simon B; 19-11-13, 15:41.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
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                          #13
                          Interesting pre-concert talk. I hadn't realised that the change to an optimistic finale to the Walton Symphony was ascribable to his having a new girlfriwend, following the earlier 3 movements' agony and anger at having lost his previous one. Walton does come across as a bit of a you-know-what, and this knowledge has dimmed my appreciation of this symphony somewhat. But does anyone else feel this side of the work's background to have been overstressed? Many see it as one of Walton's finest.

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                          • jayne lee wilson
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #14
                            The orchestra seemed to struggle a little through the first movement of the Walton 1. The discipline was there, with well-defined rhythms and transparent textures; there was a degree of expressive nuance there too, especially at the start of the development; but there was less body to the ensemble, less cohesive power than we heard in Part One. The balance for the Walton (via HDs) also seemed more distant, diminishing both presence and impact a little - the huge central climax wasn't quite the catharsis it should be; but the performance came together splendidly after that great release into the the last bars, inspired by which the con malizia scherzo was much better - both tighter and more free in its ensemble and expression, with sharp attack and hefty, crunching sforzandi.

                            Malinconia follows malizia, and the andante recovered some of the beauty, intensity and firmness of tone we heard in the Chausson, an truly impassioned performance and the beating heart of the piece tonight.
                            But again, I was left with a slight sense of disappointment after the finale; it sounded like a brave attempt after inadequate rehearsal time, rather lacking the tonal lustre and solidity we heard before the interval; the fugue came off well, but the climaxes weren't quite powerful or assured enough, and tension wasn't maintained through that last, valedictory trumpet solo. And on the webcast balance the timpani were often overpowering - not always in a good way!

                            Still, much to enjoy in the Symphony's middle movements, and the Chausson/Berlioz performances in Part One were absolute gems.
                            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-11-13, 02:36.

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