Berliner Ph Orch London concerts. From23rd Feb

[salymap]

Does anyone know whether any or all of the concerts will be televised or broadcast later? Idon't have Sky.

[french frank]

All things seem possible these days, but I've checked R3's schedule until 11 March and there's no sign of anything (E&OE). They usually like to broadcast these events as soon as possible after the performance. Television ... ah, another matter.

[salymap]

Thanks FF anyway, saly

[Bryn]

According to Penny Gore, at 16:59 today, they were off to the Barbican to get geared up for tonight's concert, so that pretty much confirms it will be recorded by Radio 3, and that she it likely to be doing the presentation.

[aeolium]

Checking the BPO website, a couple of the concerts which I think are being repeated on this London residency are being broadcast on RBB (Rundfunk-Brandenburg-Berlin) on 26th Feb and 12th March:

http://www.berliner-philharmoniker.de/en/media/tv-and-radio/

http://www.kulturradio.de/livestream/index.html

(the RBB site can be shown in English with Google translate)

The symphony referred to in the programme of the first concert as Schubert's 8th is the one known in the UK as the 9th.

[Cellini]

They did a thing on the BPO today on the "Today" programme and mentioned the RFH as the venue for Mahler 3.

It won't interest me as R is conducting, so no matter how good the band, it will not be suitable for my ears. What I heard them doing from the rehearsal sounded about as boring as its possible to get. Poor old Mahler.

[Mr Pee]

They did a thing on the BPO today on the "Today" programme and mentioned the RFH as the venue for Mahler 3.

It won't interest me as R is conducting, so no matter how good the band, it will not be suitable for my ears.

Nothing like starting off with an open mind, is there?

[Cellini]

Nothing like starting off with an open mind, is there?

What rubbish!! I've had an open mind about Rattle for about 30 years and I still have (having listened to his Mahler 2 recently) but I think I SHOULD now close it as everything I hear is getting worse.

And anyway, Ringcyclist, you are the last one to talk about an open mind. We haven't forgotten your posts on the BBC boards.

[kuligin]

If they are performing Haydn 99 Hosokawa Horn Concerto and Schubert 9 they are repeating a programme I heard in Berlin 10 days ago

A fantastic orchestra and a hall with really excellent accoustics. I did not enjoy the Haydn very much, lots of tempo changes and exaggerated pointing up of details. The Hosokawa was a short piece, brilliantly played by the Horn solist. It struck me on first hearing of any work by this composer as rather inconsequential. Some beautiful orchestral effects and this orchestra can play very quietly

The Schubert was very exciting, pretty fast over all, increadibly well played particularly the woodwind and the attack of the strings. Not a performance I suspect I would want to hear over and over again but enjoyed it very much on the night . So if this the concert I will be very interested to hear it again, as I am also not a fan of Rattles recordings and my only other fairly recent live experience was a very dull Mahler 3 with the CBSO

[Mr Pee]

What rubbish!! I've had an open mind about Rattle for about 30 years and I still have (having listened to his Mahler 2 recently) but I think I SHOULD now close it as everything I hear is getting worse.

And anyway, Ringcyclist, you are the last one to talk about an open mind. We haven't forgotten your posts on the BBC boards.

Oh dear. I didn't mean to cause offence. But there are some here who instantly dismiss anything that SR does with the BPO, often, as far as I can see, without even listening. Even his recent wonderful Brahms cycle was not good enough for them. The fact that you have listened to his new Mahler 2 shows that you are not one of them!

As for my previous incarnation on the R3 boards, I refer m'learned friend to the "Missing persons" thread, where I hope I've made it clear that I intend to make a fresh start here.

[aeolium]

I am not sure, but it could be that the Schubert 9 being broadcast this afternoon on Ao3 around 4 pm is from one of the recent performances in Berlin, and possibly also the Mahler 4 with Christine Schäfer on Friday afternoon. Not sure about the Mahler 3 scheduled for tomorrow afternoon.

[Cellini]

Oh dear. I didn't mean to cause offence. But there are some here who instantly dismiss anything that SR does with the BPO, often, as far as I can see, without even listening. Even his recent wonderful Brahms cycle was not good enough for them. The fact that you have listened to his new Mahler 2 shows that you are not one of them!

As for my previous incarnation on the R3 boards, I refer m'learned friend to the "Missing persons" thread, where I hope I've made it clear that I intend to make a fresh start here.

That is good news and I'm afraid I missed all the Brahms, so I would not comment on that, but yes, if I heard something I liked from the BPO and SR I would be the first to acknowledge it as being good, and I'm waiting for that day, so I will go on listening. I hoped to try the BPO Digital Concert Hall, as they have a variety of conductors and soloists, but so far I haven't been able to make it work. I may try again sometime. SR, who I believe is a good spekesperson for the orchestra and music in general, said in an interview that technically it is pretty advanced and maybe hard for some people to get, but I'm hoping future improvements might make it easier. I may try it on a laptop and see if that works.

Best wishes

cellini

PS I saw the missing persons thread and said I welcolmed you back. I too am trying to stay off certain topics and just talk about music. (Didn't know you were at Trinity by the way).

[Mr Pee]

Thanks for the welcome back!

Are you also an ex-Trinity-ite, Cellini?

I was there ( at Mandeville Place) from 1979-83, on the performer's course. I studied Clarinet under Keith Puddy. The College seems to be going from strength to strength at its new home in Greenwich. Mandeville Place had a lovely cosy sort of atmosphere, but the problem was that large ensembles had to trek across London for rehearsals. In my last few years, the Symphony Orchestra had to go to Lancaster Gate, which was a tube ride away!

The other problem was that between the main College building and the Annexe housing the practice rooms was "The Angel" pub. One often set off to the Annexe with the best of intentions, only to be diverted along the way!

Mind you, Greenwich isn't short of excellent hostelries, so I'd probably have the same dilemma if I was there now.....

( And I'd be interested to hear your views on Rattle's Brahms cycle, if you manage to have a listen sometime. I think it's one of the best things he's done since he moved to the BPO, although I'm sure some will disagree!)

[Alison]

What an indulgent, manicured, self-serving and utterly tensionless
Schubert 9 we heard on the wireless this afternoon.

I really would feel like shouting 'RUBBISH !' at the end of the first movement
and catch the first train home. Not for me at all. Soz.

What happened to the art that disguised art and all that jazz ?

[subcontrabass]

What an indulgent, manicured, self-serving and utterly tensionless
Schubert 9 we heard on the wireless this afternoon.

You were warned beforehand by Tom Service that it was "an extreme interpretation".