Two extra Bach Orchestral Suites to be heard tonight (apparently).

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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Two extra Bach Orchestral Suites to be heard tonight (apparently).

    Just been catching up on the Monday and Tuesday editions/episodes of Afternoon on 3 during one of which a certain Ms. Derham, the well known Bach specialist, announced that Wednesday's Performance on 3 would comprise the "six" orchestral suites by Bach. Looks like the schedule compilers have got it wrong again. They only list the usual four.

    [Just double checked. It was at the end of Tuesday's 'episode'.]
    Last edited by Bryn; 06-03-13, 01:12.
  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    #2
    Well, I only know four but may listen for no 2, which I think contains the attractive 'badinerie' [sp?]
    movement.

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    • Sir Velo
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      • Oct 2012
      • 3259

      #3
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Just been catching up on the Monday and Tuesday editions/episodes of Afternoon on 3 during one of which a certain Ms. Derham, the well known Bach specialist, announced that Wednesday's Performance on 3 would comprise the "six" orchestral suites by Bach.
      Confusing it with the Brandenburgs no doubt. Easy mistake for a beginner to make.

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      • amateur51

        #4
        You just never know what she'll find in her trousseau next

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12933

          #5
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          the usual four.
          ... a shame. I know that the fifth suite (BWV 1070) has been re-attributed to his son Wilhelm Friedemann; but I have a CD with Nova Stravaganza / Siegbert Rampe which gives a couple more - BWV 119(a) in C and BWV 97(a) in Bb ... (Obviously reconstructions from Cantatas, but with serious scholarly justification provided in the sleeve notes).

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #6
            In my old Hire library catalogue we had the authentic first 4 in the Breitkopf edition, with scoring, no 5
            not mentioned, no 6, no scoring given, arranged 'Wood'. No full name given of arranger. Luckily no one ever hired it.

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            • amateur51

              #7
              Originally posted by salymap View Post
              In my old Hire library catalogue we had the authentic first 4 in the Breitkopf edition, with scoring, no 5
              not mentioned, no 6, no scoring given, arranged 'Wood'. No full name given of arranger. Luckily no one ever hired it.
              Great story salymap

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              • Flosshilde
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #8
                Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                Confusing it with the Brandenburgs no doubt. Easy mistake for a beginner to make.
                Or the Cello Suites

                Or the English Suites

                Or the French ones

                (none of which are orchestral, of course)

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                • MickyD
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4809

                  #9
                  Looks like another case of "What Katy Did Next."

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                  • Tony Halstead
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1717

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                    Confusing it with the Brandenburgs no doubt. Easy mistake for a beginner to make.
                    But surely there are SEVEN Brandenburgs...?
                    Discover Bach: Brandenburg Concertos Nos. 1-7 by Cambridge Baroque Camerata. Find album reviews, track lists, credits, awards and more at AllMusic.

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                    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 9173

                      #11
                      oh well we all make mistakes innit ....
                      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                      • Flosshilde
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                        But surely there are SEVEN Brandenburgs...?
                        http://www.allmusic.com/album/bach-b...7-mw0001364480
                        Oh dear. Perhaps it will become valuable, like stamps with a mis-print.

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                        • Sir Velo
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3259

                          #13
                          No misprint. Cambridge Baroque Camerata states that Brandenburg No 7 (sic) is scholarly speculation, in an arrangement by Duncan Druce, of the 3rd sonata for viol and obbligato harpsichord by J S Bach.

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12933

                            #14
                            ... ah, but I also have Brandeburg Concertos 7,8, 9, 10,11, 12...



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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26572

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              Some people always have to go one (or six) better

                              (The D major Suite provided the perfect accompaniment to this evening's return to Château Caliban, and so I'm not looking any equines in the mouth
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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